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Gotta love a political discussion about a fictional coalition of middle eastern countries.

Why not just say that the US Army left Karbala, so the MEC moved in to take control. But, the insurgents had been fighting for so long that they resented any type of super power trying to take control of their humble little city.

That works

hell i'd love to see US vs MEC on this map, two conventional force's with all that open terrain and a dense urben centre, that would be an awesome battle.

anglomanii wrote:hell i'd love to see US vs MEC on this map, two conventional force's with all that open terrain and a dense urben centre, that would be an awesome battle.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... ost1226477

at the very least this would be a fun R-COM event

so if MEC fought insurgents, on any map, would that make MEC a blufor?

Meza82 wrote:so if MEC fought insurgents, on any map, would that make MEC a blufor?

Does fighting the chechens make russia a blufor?

Feriluce wrote:Does fighting the chechens make russia a blufor?

Yes, they're team2 like the US and UK.

[R-CON]Outlawz wrote:Yes, they're team2 like the US and UK.

I think he is imparting a 'Good Guy' status on BluFor. I can assure you that MEC soldiers believe they are the good guys, as do the Russians, etc.

-REad

Feriluce wrote:Does fighting the chechens make russia a blufor?

yes. because i believe the US considers the Chechen Mujahideen as terrorists, as the Opfor, but not the Russians. The Russians are now supporting the West's sanctions against Iran whom Russia used to support more, making them more of an ally Blufor. Again, "the enemies of my enemies are my friends" is at work, with the US and Russia seeming to ally together against all Mujahideen wheather in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Pakistan, Somalian...so on.

sources:
Russia says it will join sanctions against Iran - Times Online
mujahideen - definition of mujahideen by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.



PR accurately and perfectly, imo, portrays these who fights who relationship, adding to PR's greatness. Opfor seems to be defined as the side that fights against US and British forces (and other Coalition forces like Canada, Germany, Austalia, etc) and likely thus the Russia, too.

but in v0.9 tbr the US (blufor) will fight the Russians ("?for") on a REALLY EPIC COOL map. this is the only time the Russians should be considered the Opfor, imo, as was during the Cold war and maybe WW3.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-p ... eagle.html

if MEC were against insurents, or Taliban imho, on any map this should make the MEC Blufor.

i dont like to get into politics on this forum, not the place necessarily, but i really disagree with MEC v insurgents.

do you think in PR the Russians should fight the Chinese PLA to add "variety"? imo NO! for the same reason.

reality is the magic word

if MEC were against insurents, or Taliban imho, on any map this should make the MEC Blufor.

I must point out that this objection is nothing but semantics, and therefore meaningless. There is no reason that a hypothetical Middle Eastern Coalition wouldn't engage in anti-insurgency campaigns, given how fragmented and chaotic the Middle East can be. A clear divide between blufor and opfor, or making anti-insurgency exlusive to the US and the British is not reflective of the complexity of the Middle Eastern situation. And it isn't fun, either.

I also don't see anything wrong with a MEC vs Taliban map sometime in the future. Both Iran and Pakistan have frequently fought against the Taliban and other Afghan elements. From what I remember, Iran even participated in the 2001 Multinational operation against the Taliban. Even if the MEC countries (like say Iran, Pakistan, Syria, Jordan and others) were to turn against the West, they might still have to deal with Taliban and other insurgent troublemakers. Global war is certainly going to be coincided with anti-insurgency operations on both sides.

So I hope that is enough of this stupid speculation. Let's discuss real things, i.e. GAMEPLAY things.

Technoelite wrote:yes very good idea gets techys approval seal if that means anything now days

No it doesn't, stop talking about yourself in the third person already and get back to blitzkreig mod with everyone

An MEC insurgency map is well in order by now, I imagine if such a thing were done then the map will get a nice overhaul too which will be awesome cos it has some potential.

That guy mentioning Blufor wasn't necessarily calling the hypothetical MEC a set of terrorist £$%$%^$%&s, he might have been refering to the team 1/team 2 issue that used to mean that you couldn't have team 1 Vs. another team 1 army. The DEVs got round that a fair while ago now though.

[R-CON]Rudd wrote:at the very least this would be a fun R-COM event

Those words just might mark the beginning of a legendary story

PR doesnt have a story, so its perfectly plausible. hell they probebly would be able to let the swedish and norwegians battle it out, or the dutch and germans. It doesnt matter. The US fighting china isnt realistic either, who cares it makes for cool fire fights with guns and 'Splosions. You dont need to think up a scenario for it to be plausible.

I'd say go for it, MEC on karbala and MEC in insurgency would be a really good variantions.

Feriluce wrote:Does fighting the chechens make russia a blufor?

Does it matter who's BluFor and OpFor?

The world isn't as simple as two sides

BluFor and OpFor are relative, guys.

If you're playing as the MEC, you're the BluFor, and US/Brit is OpFor.

While i think a MEC insurgency map would be cool, i dont think its going to happen on Karbala. you se, the US Army cleared an insurgency from Karbala in recent years, making it a much more realistic for them to be fighting there then the MEC. However, Ramiel is located in east Africa(the iraqi insurgents being just a placeholder), so if we theorized that the MEC invaded africa, you would have a much more likely scenario.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr ... -maps.html

Wh33lman wrote:While i think a MEC insurgency map would be cool, i dont think its going to happen on Karbala. you se, the US Army cleared an insurgency from Karbala in recent years

US failed to clear out insurgency and those buddies are not happy with mecs too, let the revolt begin

Wh33lman wrote:While i think a MEC insurgency map would be cool, i dont think its going to happen on Karbala. you se, the US Army cleared an insurgency from Karbala in recent years, making it a much more realistic for them to be fighting there then the MEC. However, Ramiel is located in east Africa(the iraqi insurgents being just a placeholder), so if we theorized that the MEC invaded africa, you would have a much more likely scenario.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr ... -maps.html

Your idea of MEC in Ramiel has less sense then seeing them in Karbala

the US Army cleared an insurgency from Karbala in recent years, making it a much more realistic for them to be fighting there then the MEC

Alright. But, perhaps the map could be given back to the US Army once or if the MECsters get their own insurgency map.