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Re: Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-02 02:34
by Koroush47
Snazz wrote:Why not?

There's no point in keeping MEC if we have an Iranian faction that uses a significant amount of MEC equipment anyway.

The only thing that makes MEC worth keeping is it's generic nature, but there's nothing stopping Iran from partaking in battles across the Middle East in PR because there is no premise/story.
I wouldn't mind that, but it is ultimately up to the developers. And if they say go on it, I'd expect some help atleast with the project.

Re: Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-02 04:02
by Snazz
'[R-DEV wrote:CodeRedFox;1272982']The Dev's stance on this is that MEC is a left over faction from BF2 that conveniently gives us a middle east like faction. We have started to replace it as you can see from the Iraq civilians, Taliban, IDF, Hamas. It just takes time to make a whole new faction. While a Iranian faction would be great its just not a high priority because MEC can cover many middle east region factions.
Despite not being a priority for the Devs, I bet they would assist in some way or another if you showed you were determined and committed to finishing the faction.

Considering how many Iranian assets are already available, it wouldn't be as big of a project as other factions. Obviously even less work if it was a MEC conversion.

A significant thing about MEC's identity is that they currently speak Arabic, so they'd need Persian voices to be convincingly Iranian.

As far as 'theoretically realistic' scenarios we're comparing:
- Iran becoming a regional superpower and conducting expeditionary operations across the Middle East.
- Several Arab countries forming a Coalition against the United States.

Both allow maps to be set anywhere in the region.

Re: Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-02 05:38
by Koroush47
Snazz wrote:Despite not being a priority for the Devs, I bet they would assist in some way or another if you showed you were determined and committed to finishing the faction.

Considering how many Iranian assets are already available, it wouldn't be as big of a project as other factions. Obviously even less work if it was a MEC conversion.

A significant thing about MEC's identity is that they currently speak Arabic, so they'd need Persian voices to be convincingly Iranian.

As far as 'theoretically realistic' scenarios we're comparing:
- Iran becoming a regional superpower and conducting expeditionary operations across the Middle East.
- Several Arab countries forming a Coalition against the United States.

Both allow maps to be set anywhere in the region.
I will admit the project will not be too difficult, but it won't be easy either.

The end result should be great.

Re: Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-02 05:53
by Rudd
quite honestly I much prefer a team that we can just arm and equp with a selection of gameplay conducive weapons from a selection of middle eastern nations.

why?

- its artistically creative
- its more apolitical (just makes it simpler)
- its easier to balance gameplay problems

Wanna make an Iranian asset for teh MEC faction? I look forward to seeing it, wanna redo teh MEC uniforms to be like the Iranian military? sure, would be a nice texture.

its just nice to be able to make a faction what we need rather than to replicate something, this doesn't degrade the realism as long as a middle eastern nation uses the stuff and it performs ingame as it does IRL.

saying that, if you wish to steam ahead, I wish you the best.

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-03 02:25
by Koroush47
Deisgn plan updated to include basic vehicles.

I will add weapons soon.

We still need mappers, and skinners! If you have these talents, please PM me an app.

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-03 15:31
by J.F.Leusch69
...please get rid of the damn 50cal sniper rifles,.. thanks

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-03 19:47
by Koroush47
[R-DEV]J.F.Leusch69 wrote:...please get rid of the damn 50cal sniper rifles,.. thanks
It is the only sniper rifle that Iran uses.. The next best thing is a SVD, and that is not a sniper it is for the marksman class.

What do you suggest we put in place of it?

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-03 20:33
by ComradeChaos
[R-DEV]J.F.Leusch69 wrote:...please get rid of the damn 50cal sniper rifles,.. thanks
You reload after every shot and I'm sure we'll give it only anti-personnel capabilities.

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-03 21:08
by Koroush47
ComradeChaos wrote:You reload after every shot and I'm sure we'll give it only anti-personnel capabilities.
The Steyr HS50 is bolt action, Comrade is right.

Personally I'd rather have a normal sniper rifle because it doesn't make sense to have a 50 cal without anti vehicle properties, but in this case... there is no alternative weapon we can use.


I think it will be better to have the sniper as a nerfed HS50 instead of just using some random gun that probably doesn't even exist in Iran.

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-04 01:42
by ComradeChaos
Koroush47 wrote:The Steyr HS50 is bolt action, Comrade is right.

Personally I'd rather have a normal sniper rifle because it doesn't make sense to have a 50 cal without anti vehicle properties, but in this case... there is no alternative weapon we can use.


I think it will be better to have the sniper as a nerfed HS50 instead of just using some random gun that probably doesn't even exist in Iran.
Not really a high rate of fire at all. It's: fire, open bolt, put new bullet in, close bolt. Too bad it is the only choice. I would've preferred a conventional sniper rifle, but it seems the .50 is the choice... ;)

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-04 01:55
by Rhino
Koroush47 wrote:The next best thing is a SVD, and that is not a sniper it is for the marksman class.
Actually the SVD is in fact a Sniper Rifle, its just not the best one out there which is why we use it in the Marksman kit :p

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-04 02:26
by Koroush47
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:Actually the SVD is in fact a Sniper Rifle, its just not the best one out there which is why we use it in the Marksman kit :p
D:



Added Weapons page and team page to design plan.

Everybody welcome EddieRizla, our new skinner!

We still need more members for the team, PM me them applications !!

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-06 17:15
by Koroush47
We applied to become an official community faction. Awaiting an answer.

I also updated the design plan to make it look much neater and organized.

Let me know what you think!

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-06 21:06
by ComradeChaos
Koroush47 wrote:We applied to become an official community faction. Awaiting an answer.

I also updated the design plan to make it look much neater and organized.

Let me know what you think!
BMP 3? I thought it twas a BMP 2.

And if you need "henchmen," you should PM the guys in the old thread.

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-06 21:39
by Koroush47
ComradeChaos wrote:BMP 3? I thought it twas a BMP 2.

And if you need "henchmen," you should PM the guys in the old thread.
Nice catch that was my mistake.

What do you mean henchmen btw?

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-07 01:22
by ComradeChaos
Koroush47 wrote:Nice catch that was my mistake.

What do you mean henchmen btw?
People to work on the faction...

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-07 05:29
by Koroush47
ComradeChaos wrote:People to work on the faction...
Oh yeah, good idea.

I will do that once we get a section on the forums. If you are interested, you can actually see the dev team in the design plan I made. It is one of the pages.

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-07 20:07
by arjan
Who in here is called ''diesel'' on xfire?
so i can send him so pics of the btr60

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-08 00:34
by STORM-Mama
Nice to see this one up in the air (or at least on the way up). :)

As I've said to Koroush in PM's, the best place for reference pictures and general info seems to be the Iranian military forum:
Iran Military Forum - Iran Military Forum - Index - Military of the Islamic Republic of Iran

I'm not sure if the "Chocolate chip" pattern would be the right way to go, since most regular infantry divisions use the US woodland camo. A dusty US woodland texture would look good. :wink:

Now, I won't disturb your work any more. Good luck!

Re: [Help] Looking for mod team: New OpFor faction - Iran

Posted: 2010-03-08 00:45
by ComradeChaos
STORM-Mama wrote:Nice to see this one up in the air (or at least on the way up). :)

As I've said to Koroush in PM's, the best place for reference pictures and general info seems to be the Iranian military forum:
Iran Military Forum - Iran Military Forum - Index - Military of the Islamic Republic of Iran

I'm not sure if the "Chocolate chip" pattern would be the right way to go, since most regular infantry divisions use the US woodland camo. A dusty US woodland texture would look good. :wink:

Now, I won't disturb your work any more. Good luck!
Disturb? Bring it on! :shocked: