BTR Passengers on the Roof

Shepard
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Re: BTR Passengers on the Roof

Post by Shepard »

I think the devs just added it to give some prestige to good snipers :D
just pretend were using a 50cal and hitting u inside :P
Nebsif
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Re: BTR Passengers on the Roof

Post by Nebsif »

Meh, an MTLB is safer to its passengers than a BTR-60 ATM, if u cant depict why people ride on top of BTR's dont make em ride on top!
BenHamish
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Re: BTR Passengers on the Roof

Post by BenHamish »

lucky.BOY wrote: Slightly offtopic, if M203 uses the same warhead as Mk.19 do, does it mean that (ingame) 8 rounds from M203 do destroy a MT-LB?

-lucky
Dunno about in PR, but the MT-LB in RL doesn't have a huge amount of armour tbh. I think 10mm was the thickest.
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Ninja2dan
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Re: BTR Passengers on the Roof

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MadFF wrote:Thank you!! I don't know how many times my squad leader has basically yelled at us (me) to stay in the vehicle, or not get out. The second I hear gunfire, I want OUT of the vehicle! I hope more people read this.
It really depends on the situation. In some cases, ordering a dismount under fire can mean death of the vehicle and troops, other times it can mean survival of the vehicle and troops.

For example, if the APC comes under fire from "light" contact, such as a squad of enemy troops, the vehicle commander might order dismount. In such a case, the gunner would immediately return suppressive fire at the enemy while the troops get out and take up formation.

But if the vehicle was under fire from "heavy" contact, such as an MBT, it might be safer for the vehicle to pop smoke and fall back. In cases like that, getting out of there as quickly as possible is important, and a vehicle can't do that if troops are dismounting.

There are many variables for each situation, everything from the type of contact to the terrain. Practice and experience will help the crew decide what reaction to make when the situation comes, but in my experience most cases lead to a dismount order being given.


The problem is that in PR, most players have little combat training or experience, and are lulled into a false sense of safety while riding in an APC. They tend to think that if you're under fire, staying trapped in a tin can will protect you.
lucky.BOY wrote:Slightly offtopic, if M203 uses the same warhead as Mk.19 do, does it mean that (ingame) 8 rounds from M203 do destroy a MT-LB?
I remember there being a post somewhere that listed the quantity of munitions required from each weapon type to disable/destroy each vehicle type, but I don't recall where it was.

Personally, I think all similar rounds should do the same damage regardless of the weapon they are fired from. For example, the M16A2 should cause the same damage per projectile as the M249 SAW or G36 rifle. So in this case, the M430 round and the M433 round should both cause equal damage to a target since they use identical warheads.

If that's not the case in PR, then it's either because the coding team was unaware of the warhead specifics at the time, or they have another reason for giving them different stats. We'd need someone familiar with the coding to answer the question though, that's not my area of expertise.
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ComradeHX
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Re: BTR Passengers on the Roof

Post by ComradeHX »

They sit on the roof of BTR/BRDM2 because they can.

As in real life, sitting on the roof is dangerous, which is why you should go back IN when going into hot zones and get on top and enjoy the scenery of beautiful PR maps when not shooting at stuff(or shoot at stuff from the top of the vehicle, it simulates shooting while popping out of the hatches).
KillJoy[Fr]
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Re: BTR Passengers on the Roof

Post by KillJoy[Fr] »

In soviet russia soldiers protect the APC lol
xxkillerxx69
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Re: BTR Passengers on the Roof

Post by xxkillerxx69 »

LiveLeak.com - Convoy Ambush
As you can see it is dangerous...
But they put it into pr for a reason obviously russians do it in rl and you can see they do it by the video if being inside would have saved them who knows its to late now...
Riflewizard
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Re: BTR Passengers on the Roof

Post by Riflewizard »

It's kinda cooll, but man is it useless. Great way to insure anyone on top dies if you make any decent contact.

seriously, why not add this feature to tanks or something and put infantry inside apcs where they belong.

you know its a bit of a problem when the APC offers less protection than an open top jeep or technical
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PatrickLA_CA
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Re: BTR Passengers on the Roof

Post by PatrickLA_CA »

Russians do it IRL when moving to their objective from their base, but I'm sure they don't do it in a city or place where they can be ambushed because if an RPG hits the BTR the soldiers outside are dead, but if they were inside, they would survive.
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dunem666
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Re: BTR Passengers on the Roof

Post by dunem666 »

good luck fitting passengers inside a russian btr. its a no go!
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bloodthirsty_viking
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Re: BTR Passengers on the Roof

Post by bloodthirsty_viking »

You could have both seats inside and on the vehicle, With the entrance to the inside being the back doors, and the top being on the sides wo you can climb up... That way its players preference, And it holds more then 8 xD

And if they wanted to get on the roof or in they would have to stop and wait for them to get off and to get back in the back, So if you want the view and such, you can ride on top. If you want the security, you can ride in back....

But ya, because of the engine the only good thing about having solders outside is it looks cool xD
Sorry for kinda suggestion on a thread in the feedback section, But thats my opinion on it, It should be possible to sit on them if you want, But if you dont you have the option of being inside.
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