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If it really was like being a dad my kids would've been taken away from me by social services long long ago.

I think its just the size of the map. Everybody gets anxious and kill hungry.

Heh, yes. Being a dad, hehe. Good times.

goguapsy wrote:
Another "punishable" situation is when I tell someone the same order 5 times (to the point that the entire squad is just staring at the dude who isn't following my orders). I don't shoot him though, just a kick.

Oh I like doing that as well! Hehehe. Everyone is like "X do THAAAAAT" and they say it reaaaally slow... Then hes kicked. Done.

dtacs wrote:If it really was like being a dad my kids would've been taken away from me by social services long long ago.

You cursing a lot?

I usually kick the people who act like mongs in "my" squad, sometimes people run away far way on the map, or climb up on a building and stay there even though I tell them to get to me/marker. The last straw for me is when I send a order which doesn't get a reply, the person who doesn't listen just does his thing - That's when he gets kicked.

I always feel stupid when squadleading, since I don't know if I'm doing a good job, I usually end up as the best/second best squad but during the round you have no idea! What I believe you have to do is have a plan from the beginning and create a personality for your squad, this you should keep throughout the game. If people understand how there squadleader thinks, they will start thinking like him. This has happened to me when playing as a grunt with a good squadleader.

I feel more like a mother duck than a dad...

When i Play PR. And i squadlead. I usually tend to have alot of fun to attract people. Then we have fun, this way i keep them close. Then when the shit hits the fan, instead of under communication on contacts, people talk alot. And i know where the enemy is.

This has not only given people under me the pleasure of playing PR the way i think it should be played. Like mates and friends. But also gives everyone a sence of fun, without it meaning we have to run into machinegun fire.

I kick players who just dont care. But if someone grabs a sniper kit, and disobeyes orders, i contact an admin and boom. no more sniperman.

Anyway, acting like a child is ok, as long as they, when the shit does hit the fan, kills, rather then get killed.

// Wicca out

Operator009 wrote:I feel more like a mother duck than a dad...

hahahahahhahahah

I find that if you lay down a few rules early on, you'll find your job a lot easier as a SL. There is plenty of time inbetween engagements in PR (in most cases) and this gives opportunity to continue adding how your unit is to work, objectives, how the squad will proceed and what will be expected once there.

In that space of time, I think the SM's get a feel quite quickly, so when you start barking orders that require fast response times the SM's act quicker and a nice confidence builds within the squad.

Is it like being a Dad? I think SL's should expect to "train" SM's, considering the different way all SL's work. So I don't mind repeating and building an awareness of how the squad is to operate.

If you have SM's that do not comply, you kick. Simple.

When people ask are you creating a squad next round, you know you must be doing something right.

If you kick people just for not having a mic or being a kid then you really aren't squad leading well in my books. Well yes a mic is good, I have found a number of players that can type fast enough to call out contacts. On top of that they are also very inloved with the squad texting ideas and follow orders to the letter. For kids you just have to be a bit more firm with them, and make sure they keep following orders (they tend to want to do every job you need filled while forgeting you still need them as whatever they are). A good squad lead should take what he gets and try to forge a winning team. A final thing to remember is that some of your SMs might really know more than you do so at least hear the idea out. If it's dumb it is still your right to tell them to stop bringing it up and follow orders.

Bob of Mage wrote:If you kick people just for not having a mic or being a kid then you really aren't squad leading well in my books. Well yes a mic is good, I have found a number of players that can type fast enough to call out contacts. On top of that they are also very inloved with the squad texting ideas and follow orders to the letter. For kids you just have to be a bit more firm with them, and make sure they keep following orders (they tend to want to do every job you need filled while forgeting you still need them as whatever they are). A good squad lead should take what he gets and try to forge a winning team. A final thing to remember is that some of your SMs might really know more than you do so at least hear the idea out. If it's dumb it is still your right to tell them to stop bringing it up and follow orders.

I hate stereotypical squadleaders kicking you out if you can't talk in a mic. 90% of time I get praise by SLs but then theres the annoying 10% that just kicks you.

Ouch, what's a stereotypical SL?

Personally (and there is a huge difference in SL style's by players), I consider communication to be absolutely vital. For me it's imperative that all SM's have a mic. A lot of decisions and actions have to be made very quickly and every second counts. I also spend a lot of time with the map open.

If the s*** hits the fan, and a CQB kicks off, I'll be asking SM's situation as it's going on so I can issue orders during such a battle. Just one example.

Don't get me wrong. Not having a mic doesn't make someone a bad player. Not at all. When I join a server late and create a squad, I'll accept the squad will fill with the dregs (at times), and I have had SM's with-out a mic - and they have been really good SM's.

If kicking player's from a "mumble inf" sqd makes me a bad SL, then so be it.

doghouse wrote:Ouch, what's a stereotypical SL?

Personally (and there is a huge difference in SL style's by players), I consider communication to be absolutely vital. For me it's imperative that all SM's have a mic. A lot of decisions and actions have to be made very quickly and every second counts. I also spend a lot of time with the map open.

If the s*** hits the fan, and a CQB kicks off, I'll be asking SM's situation as it's going on so I can issue orders during such a battle. Just one example.

Don't get me wrong. Not having a mic doesn't make someone a bad player. Not at all. When I join a server late and create a squad, I'll accept the squad will fill with the dregs (at times), and I have had SM's with-out a mic - and they have been really good SM's.

If kicking player's from a "mumble inf" sqd makes me a bad SL, then so be it.

Stereotypical SL is a SL that expects everyone without a mic to be that 9-year old russian kid minding his own business. If I manage to talk them to not kick me theyre always like "Good thing I didn't kick you!"

And the mic obsession with helicopters... good apache pilot that can hover steadily and fly intelligently without mic (and listen good of course) >>>>>>>>>>>>> your basic stoner pilot with a mic.

A mute is a bit of a non-player for me if i'm SL. I appreciate that some guys struggle with English speaking, and I respect them, but it's not fun to have them in your squad.

Aside from language difficulties there is no excuse for not buying a 5.00 pound mic from amazon.com and helping your Squad Leader.

Generally guys without mics are playing for themselves and as well as being the least disciplined members of the squad tend to go off alone and camp rather than staying with you. Anyone without a mic must realise that they are contending with these people and will always be on the back foot.

It's general common sense. You can tell a lot about someone from their voice, even in one sentence. From green text you have no idea what sort of guy they are.

You dont need to speak english really. Just "enemy" "bearing" "distance" is what matters. Thats not hard. I prefer to have people with mics in my squad, for reporting purposes.

Have you ever played with me Chiz? Some English people don't understand me.. Let alone you Euro guys

In the busy moments I find it is not ideal to have someone who can only give the basics.. Because comms such as 'under the left tree at the bottom of the grain silo' get ignored.

Leopardi wrote:Stereotypical SL is a SL that expects everyone without a mic to be that 9-year old russian kid minding his own business. If I manage to talk them to not kick me theyre always like "Good thing I didn't kick you!"

And the mic obsession with helicopters... good apache pilot that can hover steadily and fly intelligently without mic (and listen good of course) >>>>>>>>>>>>> your basic stoner pilot with a mic.

I squad lead most of the time I'm on and 20% of the guys without mics I get are tolerable. I don't allow them to stay if I say "Hi, do you have a mic?" and get no response in squad chat text or speech.
Of the guys with mics I get 95% are tolerable.
If I do get a mute, I usually get him to stay back, or do some low risk task, because lack of communication is a liability.

In summary, guy without mic usually means guy who doesn't communicate. Speaking from experience.

Working as both a team leader and squad leader roles in real life infantry I always feel like a dad or maybe more of a babysitter.

haha atleast on PR your privates cant go out on the weekend, get in trouble, and then you have to come get them.

Leopardi wrote:good apache pilot that can hover steadily

Is easy to take out.

You say it's not a big deal if YOU don't have a microphone, but imagine how teamwork would fall apart if noone had one and everyone just had to rely on eachother's common sense and the ability to read eachother thoughts.

THOUGHT EXPERIMENT

Guys back on topic Plox. :3 Let not fight over who dosent have a mic and cant speak english.