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Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 09:55
by inb4banned
Heavy Death wrote:This is meant for EXACTLY the types of occurences of naming squads AMR or something vague at 1:59.999 to claim assets. Either you name it ARMOUR or be left out hanging to someone who does. Don't be upset about others succeeding, get onto their level or don't try.
Heavy Death wrote:Almost every server will accept it. But not ours, those are the rules. Same for everyone. If you play on our server, you adhere to our rules, not almost every server rules.
Yeah, get on their level of spelling the same word in a different way :confused:

Here's a quote from Sloan himself:
The admin team has recently had a problem with some very irritating people who actively attempt to use technicalities in the rules in order to ruin the game for everyone else. They recently wasted about 45 minutes trying to use the asset squad naming to do that. Faced with people whose idea of fun is to spend 45 minutes arguing about the exact interpretation of rules (rather than using those 45 minutes to go and shoot something) the admin team had to take some decisive action to prevent them doing it again, and that resulted in the rules being enforced in this way.
ARMOUR squad rule | PRTA - Project Reality Teamwork Alliance

A fair admin would either allow an ARMOR squad to stay up or remind them of the "correct" spelling, let them resign and form again with "correct" spelling. An abusive admin would resign them and take the squad for himself. That's a horribly shitty thing to do.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 10:03
by gwa1hir
so if you take the spelling so seriously (which is ridiculous) then why dont u take free kitting not as serious because there you really like to bend the rules for your own admins

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 10:18
by Heavy Death
A fair player would name it ARMOUR and save himself the frustration and admins the work. Admins are there to remove problems and ensure smooth gameplay, not to forgive your inability to read or understand.

Theorethically, server could go without rules altogether. Just like there was no armour naming rule. Butsome individuals saw an issue in that, wasted our time and we simply shortened the leash, put a shock collar around some and put out the mist vicious of the barkers.

See, if everyone played nice, there would be no problem.

Besides, this is not feedback. Why not whine about IFVs being claimed by armour which is unrealistic, and same goes for SPG techies...

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 10:43
by mrjoe(ita)
The issue here is not the wrong spelling, a fair admin could have asked to just rename the squad, is in the rules after all, it has happened to me in the past on PRTA and admins kindly asked to rename the squad, so I did and retained the squad lead.

However, VATSUG instead forced the resign in order to claim the squad for himself. (this happens regularly when he is around)

Are you really that thick to not understand the problem here?!

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 11:02
by Heavy Death
Its only his good will to let you rename it and keep the lead. Otherwise name it right and he cant do anything. If he disbands a proper squad and makes his, that is a surefire ticket off the admin team.

Besides, if i was an admin and you called me thick, id go out of my way to make you play straight. You cannot be all edgy and expect any kind of forgiveness in return. I see you are getting overly upset about breaking the rules yourself. You know where to find them, read them through once again and come enjoy the game!

Thanks for playing with us!

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 11:40
by mrjoe(ita)
Heavy Death wrote:Its only his good will to let you rename it and keep the lead. Otherwise name it right and he cant do anything. If he disbands a proper squad and makes his, that is a surefire ticket off the admin team.

Besides, if i was an admin and you called me thick, id go out of my way to make you play straight. You cannot be all edgy and expect any kind of forgiveness in return. I see you are getting overly upset about breaking the rules yourself. You know where to find them, read them through once again and come enjoy the game!

Thanks for playing with us!
I did not call any admin thick, unless you are one, but there is no way to tell.

Btw I am well aware of your rules, but I am not sure PRTA admins are.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 16:38
by DogACTUAL
Guys, the same thing happened to me on russian reality pros 2 days ago (no joke)! I created the first squad at 1.59 named 'TANKS_NO_RUS' but the admins themselves immediately created a second squad named 'TANK'.

After i complained they said that i couldn't claim the tanks with my squad name because the rules state that the squad has to be named 'TANK', exactly like theirs, to claim the assets. Every other variaton, even 'TANKS' has no claim on the MBTs.

I looked up the rules on their shitty website and sure enough, after letting my browser translate the page it said clear enough that only the squad name 'TANK' claimes the MBTs and nothing else.

So i disbanded my squad and asked to join theirs since they still had room left, but they refused to let me in. :( Like with you guys they also never even gave me the chance to change my squad name to the correct version, they just created their squad with the correct name right after mine without even warning me. :(

Seems like this is a clear case of abusive admins like you lined out in this thread (there were two admins in their tank squad).

Therefore can you please help me fight this injustice and start brigading the russian reality pros server feedback thread? They deserve this considering they are doing the same things that happen on PRTA occasionally (and on all other servers ;) ).

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 16:46
by LiamBai
There's a difference though, in that PRTA rules don't state it black and white like that.

As an example, the following is okay, at least when admins have the squad:
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(And obviously it's not freekitting if you're an admin/PRTA member)

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 16:58
by gwa1hir
'[R-CON wrote:LiamBai;2166068']There's a difference though, in that PRTA rules don't state it black and white like that.

As an example, the following is okay, at least when admins have the squad:
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(And obviously it's not freekitting if you're an admin/PRTA member)
can heavy death please comment on that as well :D

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 18:31
by DesertFox284
DogACTUAL wrote:They deserve this considering they are doing the same things that happen on PRTA occasionally (and on all other servers ;) ).
Ok, I've had it with you bringing in the worst arguments, this time you explain yourself, or stop talking nonsense.

You say other servers disband squads if they are not named "correctly"? Give me an example. Otherwise, stop lying.

I myself had my squad disbanded for being named armor instead of armour on PRTA recently. Luckily we made another "correctly" named one, but I just see no point in enforcing a rule that strictly. I was taught only the US spelling of the word mind you.
This way of enforcing a rule is extremely unfair to anyone who spells it as armor.

Why not just make it armor/armour?

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 18:37
by DogACTUAL
It is not a stretch to assume that the russians would do the same things Liam just showed aswell. But i barely play on their server at all, so i only have that one recent example.

My point is: Yes it is wrong what some PRTA admins do and an obvious double standard. But it happens on every server. You all just seem to focus solely on PRTA, claiming that they have way more abuse than any other servers, which just isn't true in my experience.

I play on their server very often, many times with alt accounts so i don't get recognized and i actually experience way less admin abuse and sketchy stuff there than on other servers.
You say other servers disband squads if they are not named "correctly"? Give me an example. Otherwise, stop lying.
Didn't i just give you an example in my previous post?!
Do you mean admins deleting your squad? If so the difference is marginal because the outcome would be the same as what happened to me with the russians: You won't get to use the assets you tried to claim.

But yes, i agree that the rule is stupid, but other servers do similar stuff.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 18:46
by DesertFox284
You said serverS, meaning plural. And you keep saying MULTIPLE SERVERS. SO give me an example of another european or north american server that does that.
Russian server is russian for a reason. I don't think anyone from here plays there (language barrier). If you think they wronged you, go post on their feedback thread, instead of calling other people to do it for you.

If what you were saying was true, there would be tons of complaints and abuse reports on other communities feedback thread/ forums. (No other community censors their forums to my knowledge).

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 19:05
by rPoXoTauJIo
DogACTUAL wrote:Guys, the same thing happened to me on russian reality pros 2 days ago (no joke)! I created the first squad at 1.59 named 'TANKS_NO_RUS' but the admins themselves immediately created a second squad named 'TANK'.
There's a diffirence through, on russian reality we're testing script which doesn't allow you to use tanks in any squad but named 'TANK', same goes for 'CAS' and 'TRANS'.
Even if you would have squad named 'TANKS' server still wouldn't allow you to use them, so admins just saved your and their time.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 20:09
by Filamu
So my squad named armor got resigned as duplicate. I thought it wasn't claiming anything, so how can it be duplicate?

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 20:40
by Chuva_RD
DogACTUAL wrote:Guys, the same thing happened to me on russian reality pros 2 days ago (no joke)! I created the first squad at 1.59 named 'TANKS_NO_RUS' but the admins themselves immediately created a second squad named 'TANK'.

After i complained they said that i couldn't claim the tanks with my squad name because the rules state that the squad has to be named 'TANK', exactly like theirs, to claim the assets. Every other variaton, even 'TANKS' has no claim on the MBTs.
>tanks_no_rus on russian server

Such attitude))))

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 20:58
by DogACTUAL
Maybe i am so cynical because every asset squad kicks you if you aren't russian even though they can speak english?
I also told everyone on my team the squad name was a joke and they could all join if they wanted to.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 23:00
by Raidonrai
Was warned to act like an adult today because I called someone a fat retard, not my fault if they're a fat retard.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-07 23:55
by Mouthpiece
'[R-CON wrote:LiamBai;2166068']There's a difference though, in that PRTA rules don't state it black and white like that.

As an example, the following is okay, at least when admins have the squad:
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(And obviously it's not freekitting if you're an admin/PRTA member)
Thanks for taking the screenshot to show the obvious bias of PRTA (head)admins. They turn a blind eye if one of their admins or friends are breaking the rules, but if it's a player that they dislike - they take action asap. I really dislike this kind of bullshit attitude. That's why I don't play there.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-08 06:38
by =MeRk= BluFFeR
Mouthpiece wrote:Thanks for taking the screenshot to show the obvious bias of PRTA (head)admins. They turn a blind eye if one of their admins or friends are breaking the rules, but if it's a player that they dislike - they take action asap. I really dislike this kind of bullshit attitude. That's why I don't play there.

Fine words +1

@Dog Never had a bad admit experience on Russian Reality Pro ( And I do play there ), haven't even had a language barrier problem as most of our Russian counterparts actually speak English and make a effort to speak English to me when squad leading.
And as suggested in a previous post if there was any issues with Russ Pro there feedback thread would show it, same as every other server.
May issues put in this thread about PRTA have already been deleted or 'cleaned' by MODS, nothing has been addressed or sorted, not even a compromise. I believe it was wrote by Captain Fantastic ArkUTD that PRTA have no affiliation with this thread, possibl due to them not having the balls and being able to control it.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-06-08 08:18
by assetruler69
Chuva_RD wrote:>tanks_no_rus on russian server

Such attitude))))
I couldn't even imagine how fast you can be kicked or banned for "NO GER" squad on european server.