Free Candy Van

[bren]

Dax, Lack of communication can be many things. It can be between sqds, but it can also be from admins.

Ive played a couple of times on FCV with the old rules, and to me it just felt like an advanced version of COD. As brenn has stated earlier, FCV has been a "casual" server. Thats fine, if you like that kind of PR teamwork. Now you have stepped up, and your trying to aspire to a higher level of maturity and teamwork. Hence my trying to play on it again.

Your new rules clearly state that it is required to communicate on mumble. When I reported a SL who neither spoke english, nor used mumble i got no response from the 5 admins who where online. Chaoz as far as i remember was on the same side as I.

Brenn states that it was because the use of XJ as reporting was not enough since it was a clan tag, but he was the only player with that tag so it should not have been an issue. But even if it was, It does not take 3 sec. to look at the scoreboard to find out to whom I was talking about. And if that also failed 1 of the 5 admins could have asked me for a proper name. That didnt happen either. And that i would call a lack of communication.

It wasnt just one !r it was many, also several attempts at all chat to get an admins attention.

As to spamming between round yes it happens on FCV as it does on HOG. The difference I experienced was that no admin took action.

Jevski, action has been taken. I already know this. Please, when you write this review (I already know the answer) please also tell us how we can fix it if there's a problem, because AFAIK you have been an administrator longer than I have, constructive advice is the second supplement of a review, not just the repetition of the same issue you have which makes me come to the conclusion that you don't like us, and that's fine you're entitled to your own beliefs, you are also the one of the thousand that has this type of issue on the server, things happen everywhere as said by you, yourself. I would like to hear your side on fixing this as you seem to have at least had interest in playing on the server, I have talked to you once and you told me to go "f***" myself for no apparent reason leaving me with a very mixed thought about you, yet I stay unbiased as a server owner because it is in my duty to always look at both sides equally and fairly, and in this case I let it go after a month and decided to not worry about it being the forgiving person I am, also unbanning 91 people a couple months ago, after the FCV re-initiation from being banned a few came back to the server fully and became very good players you often see squad leading. Back on topc, you are making me come to the conclusion that you have more personal disregard than server disregard.

If there's nothing else to argue then keep it on our forums, a PM, or whatever. I'm tired of having to read the same thing every time I see a new post on this thread. It's derailing this thread.

Thanks.

[Jevski]

Brenn, I have no recollection of telling you to go f ur self. But if I did, I do apologize. As for repeating myself, it was more a response to Dax, nothing else. And as what to do fix the problem...well Communicate

[bren]

Brenn, I have no recollection of telling you to go f ur self. But if I did, I do apologize. As for repeating myself, it was more a response to Dax, nothing else. And as what to do fix the problem...well Communicate

I remember it exactly, I asked if you were Danish and if you were content with the server on Iron Ridge, I remember the exact place I was, which was at main and daxt was in the squad as well.

And thanks, communication between admins has always been put at a high standard, from what it seems like a couple lot of the admins were either afk or alt-tabbed, if they were I remember they were previously seeding. Don't know what to do there.

And depending on the time: if it was around 10-14 PRT the whole point of that time is to start steering the server into trying to get the Europeans with godawful ping into PRTA; a better server at least.. Maybe even MerK or NEW, all those guys are very nice when they hop on our servers I thought I would pay some respect in return. If you haven't knew already FCV stemmed down from PRTA at one point as a brother-server, now since we have cut ties I still withhold a manager position in PRTA and I try to drive the Europeans out of my server because of the uncontrollable flow of language barrier issues leading to complaints like this one, the Asian population is growing rapidly and I'm happy to be a cause (hence why I suggest that FCV starts endorsing small Asian PR communities so that the language barriers aren't has tall and thick and so there is better "communication"). With having idle admins or tired/"unresponsive" admins I am left to ask people to go to a new server or turn it off because we don't have all of the resources in the world. We have high standards for admins that are awake and online actively in that timeframe, sadly only two have met those standards.

Thank you for answering my question.

[TheMedalOfHonor]

brenn4n, what is the time of bann on server Free Candy Van - LA ? Since yesterday I am banned.

[bandwevil]

This isn't the proper place to discuss bans - please visit our forums at fcvgaming.net if you'd like to talk about it.

[TheMedalOfHonor]

Complicating matters is useless, and I thought it was here to speak to you moderators server. I have to go through that there's more then just a forum?

[H.Maverick]

To be fair Brenn, I'd be pissed if i was from Denmark myself xD

back on topic.

I find that the communication and teamwork is much better now than it was before, keep it up!

[bandwevil]

Complicating matters is useless, and I thought it was here to speak to you moderators server. I have to go through that there's more then just a forum?

Not my rules, forum guidelines here pretty specifically state that these threads aren't for talking about bans in any way.

[TheMedalOfHonor]

Ok, thank you for your response.

[bren]

To be fair Brenn, I'd be pissed if i was from Denmark myself xD

back on topic.

I find that the communication and teamwork is much better now than it was before, keep it up!

I don't understand how it would be, but I'm American so cut me a little slack, I don't know what's bad about being Danish, however. Unless I got my facts wrong.

And thanks Maverick. I have realized mainly the Europeans have impressed me when it came to teamwork on PR in general.

Have a good one! And PM me if you still are interested regarding your application. We have to give them a certain time just to ensure that applicants are worthy of being accepted.

Edit: Wait, I may have you mixed up with J.Maverick ...? Unless you guys are the same person.

[Chefmoto1]

We are always looking for new admins, doesn't hurt to apply if you are interested. PR:BF2 In-Game Administrator Application | FCV Network

[TheMedalOfHonor]

The CAPTCHA on your website doesn't work. I can't sign up.

[bren]

The CAPTCHA on your website doesn't work. I can't sign up.

It does. Just tried it.

[Murphy]

I just want to say thanks for giving us a nice server to play and without have to worry about over-zealous admins (one admin on another server who is apt to voice a negative opinion about this server in this thread needs to learn how administrating a server is more about sorting through the gray areas, and less about everything being black and white). There is a fine balance being struck on this server, a balance between having fun and pushing the rules and those trying to troll and outright break the rules in contempt of the spirit of PR.

Your rules are well received by the majority of PR players, and it shows you guys have put a lot of thought into what works on paper and how things play out ingame. No one is perfect and having been falsely accused of breaking the rules I can say that the admins on TS did a very good job ensuring I got to voice my side of the discussion instead of banning me with the aim of forcing me to post on their forums.

I'm not sure how the admins are told to handle things but I have to say this is probably the only server I've been in with loads of admins on at the same time and noticed that everything was handled with the upmost consideration towards the experience of the server as a whole. That is to say I haven't witnessed any over-administration aiming to force players to adhere to an admins view of how the game should be played, almost every other server has at least one admin guilty of doing this (and some of those admins take it upon themselves to undermine what you guys have going it seems).

Anyways this is just a post to counter some negativity brewing in this thread. Keep up the good work Bren and company, our community is clearly grateful for your service (made evident by the popularity of FCV servers).

[Daxt2]

I just want to say thanks for giving us a nice server to play and without have to worry about over-zealous admins (one admin on another server who is apt to voice a negative opinion about this server in this thread needs to learn how administrating a server is more about sorting through the gray areas, and less about everything being black and white). There is a fine balance being struck on this server, a balance between having fun and pushing the rules and those trying to troll and outright break the rules in contempt of the spirit of PR.

Your rules are well received by the majority of PR players, and it shows you guys have put a lot of thought into what works on paper and how things play out ingame. No one is perfect and having been falsely accused of breaking the rules I can say that the admins on TS did a very good job ensuring I got to voice my side of the discussion instead of banning me with the aim of forcing me to post on their forums.

I'm not sure how the admins are told to handle things but I have to say this is probably the only server I've been in with loads of admins on at the same time and noticed that everything was handled with the upmost consideration towards the experience of the server as a whole. That is to say I haven't witnessed any over-administration aiming to force players to adhere to an admins view of how the game should be played, almost every other server has at least one admin guilty of doing this (and some of those admins take it upon themselves to undermine what you guys have going it seems).

Anyways this is just a post to counter some negativity brewing in this thread. Keep up the good work Bren and company, our community is clearly grateful for your service (made evident by the popularity of FCV servers).

Cheers! The admin staff of FCV try their hardest to make sure both parties get to express their part of the story during an incident. We also put as much effort into administrating as possible to guarantee everyone has a fun yet serious time on our servers, and we appreciate the fact that you and others see this.

[camo]

(one admin on another server who is apt to voice a negative opinion about this server in this thread needs to learn how administrating a server is more about sorting through the gray areas, and less about everything being black and white).

almost every other server has at least one admin guilty of doing this (and some of those admins take it upon themselves to undermine what you guys have going it seems).

Little unhappy with someone?

If you have a problem just take it to the specific servers/clans and put in a complaint there, contrary to popular belief, most head server admins want to know so that they can fix the problem.
There is absolutely no point in getting bitchy in a thread that they will never see.

[bren]

Little unhappy with someone?

If you have a problem just take it to the specific servers/clans and put in a complaint there, contrary to popular belief, most head server admins want to know so that they can fix the problem.
There is absolutely no point in getting bitchy in a thread that they will never see, all it does is sour the thread and i imagine it puts the fcv admins in quite an awkward position.

I think you just highlighting it places us in an awkward position. This is a server feedback thread, I would suggest that if you have issues with people within the thread/specific servers/clans you should put a complaint in the appropriate place, not here. See "rules" within these forums.

[camo]

I would suggest that if you have issues with people within the thread/specific servers/clans you should put a complaint in the appropriate place, not here. See "rules" within these forums.

Exactly.

I think you just highlighting it places us in an awkward position.

That's just me noticing it, I didn't create it. But i guess i'll edit my post if you want.

[bren]

Exactly.



That's just me noticing it, I didn't create it. But i guess i'll edit my post if you want.

Thanks for just doing exactly what I told you and a couple others NOT to do again.

See "rules" within these forums.

If there's nothing else to argue then keep it on our forums, a PM, or whatever. I'm tired of having to read the same thing every time I see a new post on this thread. It's derailing this thread.

Thanks.

[RAWSwampFox]

Good Afternoon,

The updated rules look ok. While I understand the "behind closed doors" admin approach to dealing with problems and the no "public shaming" aspect, IMO, this exact things leads to suspicion and frustration that I see in a lot of these posts from good solid players. I don't agree with either of the above but clear communication that a specific issue is being taken care of would be nice as well as something that is visibly tangible to back up the "we are taking care of it" statement. If there is nothing visibly tangible that people can provide reference too, IMO, it opens the door for inaction and corruption (good ole boy system).

FCV admin'ing reminds me of the parent that tells their kid, now on the count of three I am going to ...... 1, 2, 2.25, 2.5, 2.75, 3 ..... wham.... The kids know when the button is about to launch the consequence and will ride it right down to the last millisecond causing hurt feelings and family disruption which is often displayed between parents as well as siblings. These feelings don't easily go away with a "I'm sorry" but rather with something that is visibly tangible and heartfelt.

After reading the rules, I thought I might give FCV a second chance but then read some of the posts above and realized that the rules, while well thought out with good intention, still isn't being publicly communicated in game. Text across the screen isn't always read in the heat of gaming granted, but the beep and text that follows a warning has a higher reading and comprehension percentage. Why are these not used as often?

Will my continued boycott affect the server, probably not. I do miss playing on it and am saddened by the constant inaction or overreaction from admins. Political campaign promises are hollow unless filled with visible tangible results.

Free love brings.... well... just read history.....

-SwampFox