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@Lyrics: destryong all friendly assets is a very stupid thing to do and there is no discussion there were bad intentions on your part: you were actively and deliberately trying to destroy the gameplay for the rest of the team.
When it comes to bans, it is of paramount importance to look at the intentions behind the actions of the player, in this case the intentions seemed to be f****** up the game for the rest of the team in retaliation for some discussion. In my opinion at least a temp-ban is justified.
This does not mean, however, that we won't consider a ban appeal. All appeals are considered, but not all of them are lifted. Post the appeal on the HOG forums and a senior admin will look at your request. My advice to you would be to be honest in the appeal and somehow convince us that it won't happen again.

@Lacrosse4life: I remember seeing you on the server not too long ago but I was not there when you were banned. It is however a rule that you cannot take matters into your own hands when dealing with players that are being asshats. Call in an admin and we will deal with it as well as we can. Keep in mind, however, that on a 64-player server there is a lot of admining to do and we don't always have time/patience to get to the bottom of a certain situation. If you were wrongfully banned, I apologise and a permanent ban seems uncalled for in this situation. However, it is up to a senior admin to consider your appeal. Make a post on our forums, explain the situation and be honest. I'd be surprised if the ban is not lifted. If we see that the banned player in question does not have bad intentions, more often than not the ban is lifted the same day. Post the appeal and a senior admin will investigate it.


@blackice: I do not remember seeing you on the server, but as I explained before, admining is a lot of work and since we may have some different rules on our server than on others, we need to be more alert. There are a lot of players who do not bother to read the rules that scroll in the server or are posted on our website. We expect all players to know and understand these rules as it is a basic courtesy. On some aspects of the gameplay we may be stricter, on others we are not as strict. We are for example not kicking people for running people over with vehicles, unlike some other servers. Please read our rules, I'm sure you will find that they are reasonable.
Should you have been kicked incorrectly, I apologise.

brezmans:

thank you for the answer.
yes, it is stupid to destroy the assets, theres no discussion needed and a ban is the correct way to handle things like that. im not gonna ask for an unban, because i deserved it. for me its the thing that provoked this acting of me which comes from the admins. as i said i cant remember in every detail, i dont want to post something i THINK here in official forums to harm your server-reputation.. i just wanted to say that a massive fail of power use from the admins happend which causes my stupid reaction and in addition to that -> my ban.

and thats the reason why my and our friendly-clan arent playing on HOG anymore.. if theres no heavy change on which member of HOG are admin happens i dont think i want to play there.

if you say that the admin-level changed during the last 1-2 years massive i will go and ask for a unban because then there is no reason for me to stay away.

and no i dont think im gonna do something stupid like this one more time. it was the only and once time.

so my question is, are the admins now the same like for 2 years ago?

greetings from austria
SquadSn1peR

Have you actually tried to apply for an unban, Lyrics?

I was banned for hacking there a couple of years back, got unbanned after a couple of weeks with discussion.

@Lyrics: thanks for the reply. Since the release of BF3 a majority of HOG players have moved there (HOG originally being a BF2 clan), with only a small crowd still hanging around for PR (about 20-25 tops), so I'd guess the admins have changed if that's your question.

It is also possible your ban has been lifted already since it's been so long ago, if this is not the case, please consider appealing it. If you find you can join the server, try to hop in the server tonight and let me know if you like it. But please read the rules on our webpage first.

Pubbers are also welcome to join or Ventrilo channel, to chat with us and to see the way we communicate and play the game. All of the info can be found on our website: www.hogclangaming.com


In general admins come and go, people leave games for different games or real life catches up with them. I think it's hard to say a server stays the same for such a long time.

thank you brezmans i will try and let you know!

Lacrosse4Life17. Your ban is not admin abuse. Let me quote the rules :

Please report disruptive players to an ADMIN, DO NOT TAKE MATTERS IN TO YOUR OWN HANDS. Let the admin deal with the player that is what we are here for. This may result in a kick / 24hr ban.

I was there !!! You were reported by several players team killing. Therefore you got a 24hr ban.

Gentlemen !!! I see a lot of admin abuse accusations. I will personally take this to our member forum for further discussion.

PHIL.

Oh Jesus... Either way, though I am still pissed. Sorry if that's a problem.

brezmans, im still banned, tried it today!

greetings

@Lyrics: Thank you for trying and getting back to us. I would suggest you post a ban appeal in our forums, which can be found at www.hogclangaming.com. You will need to register an account and wait for an admin to activate it, which should be within 24 hours. When posting the appeal, the most important thing is to be honest about what got you banned. It is however out of my hands as a senior admin will deal with it.
I hope to see you on our forums!

thank you brezmans!

Played on your server yesterday with a couple of friends. I experienced a lot of immature discussion about hackers. I don't really mind people accusing someone of hacking if the discussion is held in a mature way, but the way some of the guys on the server behaved was... unacceptable, I'd say.

I would like to see an admin take care of such behavior the next time it happens, as immature - or CODish as I like to call it - behavior has nothing to do in PR.

A discussion about hackers? That would be a first time, as far as I know. I don't think there's more than 0.1% of the players in the PR community that hack, so discussions about them are not frequent, I've never even seen one.

Around what time did you play? Were there any admins on? Our peak time with the most admins is around 8pm GMT until about 2am GMT, I would say. At those times the chat is moderated when it gets out of hand. At other times, there will probably still be admins on, but not as much.

I was not on the server with you I think, I would have remembered it.

Thank you for the feedback! Things like that rarely happen and we try to take care of it.

We were playing around 4-5 GMT, so that would probably explain why there were no admins there to take care of it. Glad to hear you try to take care of it.

why i been kicked every time when i make cas huey sq at 1:30.....kick reason is duplicate squad. Is Cas huey avaible for any player or just for some players and admins ?

Will HOG consider running other maps than Muttrah 24/7 at some point?

@Dzigiman: the rule is that the first squad at 1:30 gets the asset. Were you at that point the first CAS squad? If so, and you feel you were wrongly kicked, could you tell me the approximate time you played so we can look into this? We take this kind of abuse very seriously.

@Tim270: at this point, there are no plans to change the current setup of the server. We have quite a large community of players that we built up over the years coming in each evening to play Muttrah on our server. But never say never!

i know for the sq rules....and i made cas squad at 1:30....the situation was that we are probably both made cas squad at same time or he made it earlier.....he reported me( nick towtothehead or something) for duplicated sq and i been kicked after 30 sec of round.....isn't better solution in that situation to run for asset?.....who get chopper stay in cas sq and other will join to some other sq.....it's not necessery to be kicked if you follow the rules...that happened to me several times when i try to take cas, last night olso....

Dzigiman, if I understand your post correctly you made a CAS squad just right after or at the same time as towtothehead, but towtothehead's squadnumber was 1? It just so happens that in this game milliseconds can make a difference when creating squads, but if your squad has a higher number than the other asset squad (2 instead of 1, for example) you are last and have to disband the squad. This rule is very unambiguous and clear and duplicate squads are not allowed in the server.

Your suggestion of running for the asset will cause nothing but problems, for example teamkilling to get the asset.

In the future, when you see the other squad was first (has a lower number) disband your squad immediately to avoid confusion. A kick may or may not be necessary, as in the past we have had problems with people taking off in the CAS huey and crashing it to spite the other squad, so we try to remove them before it happens.

I hope that answers your concerns, thanks for posting.

last night was good fun on HOG the FORT got absolutely hammered with everything PR has to offer, arty, mortars, c4, JDAM and CAS all in under 6 minutes while i was recording

pesticide - Project Reality Battlefield 2 mod - HOG server - Muttrah city Fort gets utterly destroyed

Thank you for a good game on hog. Had fun playing with a new player and a few friends. Get more people on mumble is that possible. OTher than that Keep it up! Had loads of fun!