.:iGi:. (Europe)

[.:iGi:. Eggenberg4Ever]

What Greg said.

[Kruder]

We do normally. But if it's the last flag, then you can't stop people attacking it.

Well i dont want to give names(cant remember anyway) but guys with IGI tag on your server brought 2 apcs to MEC airfield in Gulf of Oman without capturing a single flag,then other 2 started to baserape with f18s all map long with cobras raping from time to time.See i dont ***** about snipers or infantry squads because it is up to you to wipe them off but since you dont have any decent protection especially against fighters in that map(flak operator always dies if plane and flak starts to fire each other ,no shilkas available)


P.S :O ne of them was a real pussy, only destroyin mig on the ground and leaving SU intact to score an easy kill instead of destroying an empty vehicle.

[.:iGi:.U.G.H.]

Well they shouldn't have been. Keep an eye out for it again and report back names.

[OldSchoolSoldier]

In my opinion it is perfectly OK to attack the airfield. Air assets are very important so it would seem like a good idea to eliminate them. The APC isn't very strong and can be taken out with a couple of AT rounds.

Since the flag is totally capable the above situation can't really be described as base rape.

[OldSchoolSoldier]

One thing I would say is that the two main bases do not have equal levels of defence. The carrier is very strong where as the MEC airfield is weak in comparison. Not much we can do about this. I have never been a fan of Gulf of Oman

Note: I would have added this to my previous post but I seem to be lacking the edit button! Never mind

[.:iGi:. Eggenberg4Ever]

We were "base raped" as MEC a couple of nights ago: a squad of USMC came to the MEC base and hammered our armour assets before we took care of them in kind.
It's a hard one to call IMO: are they raping bases out of sheer devilment or is it a legitimate tactic to head for the base where the assets are (including the arty) and knock the shit out of them therefore crippling the enemy for some time until assets are either repaired or respawn?

[.:iGi:. Eggenberg4Ever]

This was on EJOD... my edit button' gone too.

[Kruder]

Well they shouldn't have been. Keep an eye out for it again and report back names.

Thx for advice will do it


For legitimity discussion,if the MEC base is one of the remaining 2 flags or the last one it is perfectly ok for me too.

Baserape is ok in vbf2 because you dont have to wait engines to warm up for 30 secs,if air asset is destroyed it will spawn back in 30 secs,but in PR it takes 5 minutes to get airborne again.

For example in il2-fb a flight sim which has the maturest community i've seen so far, you dont see any spawn camping (in their case it is shooting down planes shortly after take off or before take off) where you know you can safely take off and have a chance to fight back,i dont mean equality btw,u might be fighting against 4 planes , but at least you have a chance to respond.

[Freshmeat]

Attacking Uncaps is legal i believe, nothing wrong with it,ill own up the other igis can Stay quite i shant name names, but together as a APC attack squad First moved out the boat with 4 manned APC went straight, for ur Tanks and APCs Destroyed them went vie River destroyed the RP and AA, then continued on to the air field in Style(i may add), Taking out ur aircraft and Cobra ect, B4 we all got destroyed

Point 1, this is no different than the Planes attacking/Raping the MEC airfield
Point 2, if we are not aloud to attack ur airfield to destroy the Planes ect then we are not aloud to attack and destroy the MEC Tanks and APCs As its all so not near any first flags
Point3, Its called being pro Active thus is a Great Tactic,

If i remember Correctly, We actually managed to Take all 4 flags and proceed onwards as the MEC where confused to the Attack we gave at the Feild

The APC attacking did nothing wrong nor did the the Driver or gunners, i stand firmly on this decision

[.:iGi:.U.G.H.]

It's not in any rules we've set but it is frowned upon. We frequently tell people to stop doing it on other maps.

You shouldn't really do it Freshmeat. It is pretty lame but then again, it's not that hard to deal with an APC who is raping the MEC main on GoO and it takes a reasonable time to respawn and get back so it's not that bad.

[Freshmeat]

Ill hold my hands up and say twas me but i only went where the driver took me say no more say no more

[.:iGi:. Greg]

With regards to this particular discussion, the problem is with the vanilla Gulf of Oman map more than anything. The map is just far too small really. You can't fail to attack the MEC airfield in a plane as you practically fly over it as soon as you are on the map.

I don't really have a problem with planes bombing the airfield from time to time, as long as this isn't the sole tactic used by that person the entire game. I do have a problem with people in APCs, hummers etc, that sit a small distance from an uncappable flag's spawn point and just rapes anyone that spawns. Some tactics are down to the individual situation to decide if they are fair or not.

But if one team is down to their last flag and it happens to be uncappable then I think anything is fair game.

[El_Vikingo]

Thx for advice will do it
For example in il2-fb a flight sim which has the maturest community i've seen so far, you dont see any spawn camping (in their case it is shooting down planes shortly after take off or before take off) where you know you can safely take off and have a chance to fight back

So you're saying we can base rape?!

[.:iGi:. Eggenberg4Ever]

|I'll hold my hands up here too: if it's the night I remember then I was part of that APC squadron that made it up the river knocking heck out of everything we saw.
When we got to the airfield we wiped out the assets that were there but not with impunity: as Fresh says we were all wiped out in the end but not without making this tactic count for something.
It could be seen as a lame tactic but my view is that we're on a battlefield and in RL not all the action takes place at the front. I believe asset whacking helps the guys at the front. The time it takes for APC's, arty, planes, helo's & other road transport to respawn gives troops vital time to consolidate positions and move on to the next cap.
I don't in any way condone spawn camping in the form that Greg mentioned, and neither should any serious player.
If we'd survived the hit on the airfileld we'd have moved on to cause havoc elsewhere.
Spawn camping is just plain booorrrrrrring!!! And it, too, makes Baby Jesus cry

[El_Vikingo]

Well, If we got there (all the way from the Carrier) before their APCs, Choppers, Planes had taken off, then they deserved it!

[Kruder]

Yup,bringing 2 apcs plus cobras+f18s to mec main base called destroying assets not spawnraping/camping,as your clan-leader agreed and on most of the servers you wont be kicked for doing that because every admin knows that this is infact war not a game thus they know all fair in war.

[fuzzhead]

gulf of oman will be changed in next version: MEC defenses will be bolstered at the airfield, as well as not having any heavy assets spawning there besides jets. All heavy assets will spawn at the north highway. this will make attacking the airfield alot less like raping and alot more tactical.

all spawn points will change at the airport too to make more sense.

[.:iGi:.NinjaJedi]

nice.

[.:iGi:. Eggenberg4Ever]

Well, If we got there (all the way from the Carrier) before their APCs, Choppers, Planes had taken off, then they deserved it!

You were my driver at one point mate.... it worked a treat, eh?

fuzzhead']gulf of oman will be changed in next version: MEC defenses will be bolstered at the airfield, as well as not having any heavy assets spawning there besides jets. All heavy assets will spawn at the north highway. this will make attacking the airfield alot less like raping and alot more tactical.

all spawn points will change at the airport too to make more sense.

Sorted!

[Freshmeat]

APC ATTACKING MEC AIRBASE FTW