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Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-01-10 07:35
by Moszeusz6Pl
Small advise, if player is loading his ping is 0, when he finished loading(probably when it's still verifying client data) he have normal ping, so you should wait few minutes after he have some ping value before kicking, because sometimes verifying client data take some time, and not always player join squad and spawn instantly, sometimes he is analyzing the battlefield first.

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-01-11 14:23
by L4gi
Actually, if the ping is 0 or his ping doesnt change at all, say it stays on 50 and doesnt change at all, he is still loading in. If the ping value changes like it normally should, he has finished loading.

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-01-20 14:50
by xambone
Just had a blast Sat Night (Last night) Playing ww2 maps. Brecourt assault had some of the most intense battles over the large building. Just a lot of good communication and working together. Annoying Commander soviet something but at least he was trying hard the whole round. This kid just kept saying "NADSEE's" like he was Brad pitt in Inglorious ********.

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-01-24 01:27
by Jaeger.Pyro
Got kicked from your server 24.1.2013 ~3am (+2GMT). Kick message saying "Don't switch teams".

(Operation Marlin)
I'm playing on the MEC side with my buddies for 15min, as soon as i died admin switched me to CAN, withouth any reason. I asked admin to switch me back to MEC (!r switch me back to MEC pls), admin switched me back to MEC. As soon as i have respawned and rejoined the squad i was in, i get KICKED off the server with kick message "Don't switch teams".

1st of all i DID NOT switch teams, an admin switched me.

2nd why the hell i'm not allowed to switch back to my buddies side who i have played from the beginning of the round over ~15min.

3rd It is your admins failure to communicate with each other for getting the facts straight.
What amazes me the most is why do i get INSTANTLY kicked off the server without any warning.

4th The kick i received was not justified at all. I mean is it not allowed to play with friends in your server? If so there sure isn't any rule saying that you can't do so. This is one of the most ridiculous kick messages ever i've encountered in my PR history so far.

P.S: The teams were not unbalanced in anyways

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-01-24 03:05
by brezmans
There has clearly been a major miscommunication on our part, Jaeger, I'm sorry that this happened to you. Playing with friends is absolutely allowed and teamswitching isn't even that big an issue unless maybe on insurgency.

I will have a chat with the admin that kicked you and I will make it very clear that this is not how things are supposed to go. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Also, the [3dAC] tags are in our smartbalance, admins shouldn't be switching you to balance.

We will sort it out.

Regards,
Brez

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-01-25 02:38
by saXoni
witty_pseudonym wrote:switching people out of their squad mumble to be less effective
That's a bug that happens every now and then and it has nothing to do with the admins of any servers. If it happens again you just need to restart your PRMumble. Make sure you're running PRMumble as administrator as well, as you'll kind of fuck it up if you don't.

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-01-25 02:50
by brezmans
Witty, I have just checked the logs for all admin actions that were related to you, I found one kick, for being AFK, yesterday. You have _never_ been kicked from our server except this one time for being afk.

As for the switching on chrisweb, I just looked that up and he was switched indeed, and it looks to be a wrongful switch by an overzealous admin who was confused with his [69th] tag and a bunch of players on the other side wearing =69= tags. We had some ghosting issues recently and this was no doubt a reaction to that. This was obviously completely incorrect and I will talk to him as this is not the first time this has happened and we will take action. The admin in question has apologised to chrisweb in the chat and we figured that was the end of it, I have also not seen any complaints from him.

The accusations that we switch/kick players who are doing well are childish and inaccurate and completely uncalled for, I expected better from you, this also tarnishes your own reputation and whatever esteem I had for you is now completely gone.

[TF-R] is not an affiliated clan, not by a long shot, they have spent many weeks on our banlist. If they disturb the gameplay in any way or start messing up the server we don't usually think twice about removing them. I'm not sure what other 'affiliated clans' you're talking about since we don't really have any.

As for your other comments, I can't help but write that a few weeks ago you were in our ventrilo and we all had fun and we were glad to have you, but then out of the blue a week later when you joined, somebody accidentally moved you to the incorrect channel (a bf3 channel instead of PR if I recall correctly), after which you posted an angry comment and ragequit the server. Not exactly the attitude we are looking for on our server and it honestly makes me take this whole feedback post with a huge grain of salt.

I especially like the comment where we switch people out of their squad mumble to be less effective, very original. I think you need to take a deep breath and calm down.

We try very f****** hard to be as reasonable as possible when it comes to admining, we try to be very damn approachable when anyone has any type of issue and we try to resolve it. Try to walk a mile in our shoes, when someone accuses someone else of insulting them on mumble or other verbal abuse in voicechat. There are no logs of that, so we are supposed to just take their word on it? Obviously sometimes we choose to ignore a report about that unless more reports on the same person come in from various people. It's not all black and white here. We attract a lot of people and I like to think it's because we are reasonable in admining the server.

This ended up to be a very long post simply because I take all feedback very seriously, no matter who it comes from. We have been working our asses off to get the server to where we are now and any wrongful attack on that, like the one you just threw at us, is an insult to our hard work and dedication and we will not stand for it.

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-01-25 16:59
by brezmans
Witty, people reported you as being AFK and that's why we removed you, that's all. I think there's more to it but I'd like to PM you about that, think TF-R had a hand in it.

I think you're not understanding me correctly, by the way. We don't use excuses to kick people, we had a lot of reports of people being afk so we acted on that to make room for active players.

As for the rest of your post, I don't understand what you're getting at. You're saying that we know our own actions and this and that but I don't get what you're saying. Your accusations of us moving people out of mumble, kicking people for fake reasons and all the other BS you threw at us, NONE of that is true. That's simply not how it is... I think there is a major communication error here somewhere and you perceive us as doing those things while in reality we actually don't do the aforementioned things...

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-01-26 15:44
by rodrigoma
I have to say Brezmans , I played yesterday night and It was frustrating to be teamswitched multiple times especially at the round end when the clan tags did their usual switch to the blufor. Even after I asked to be team-switched by the admins I got no response whatsoever.
Even the teams were really unbalanced I'm guessing cause by all the teamswitching but that is something harder to control.

Also could you play some minimod in rotation once in a while?

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-01-26 15:49
by brezmans
I will put the [R-CON] tags in the smartbalance, rodrigo.

As for the minimods, our server runs a 100% on mapvotes, if people want to play minimods that's what we'll play. Yesterday we played Brecourt, Charlie's Point and another that I forgot, so they get played almost every day.

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-01-26 17:26
by rodrigoma
brezmans wrote:I will put the [R-CON] tags in the smartbalance, rodrigo.

As for the minimods, our server runs a 100% on mapvotes, if people want to play minimods that's what we'll play. Yesterday we played Brecourt, Charlie's Point and another that I forgot, so they get played almost every day.
Good to hear the minimods are getting voted, I guess I haven't had any luck and didn't realize you guys always ran mapvotes, very nice! 8)
I wasnt asking for smart-balance for me, I just wishing for fairness for every player with tags or not

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-01-27 09:25
by Tequila
If you guys want to play more mini-mod, check =HOG= out at night (after 10pm Eastern). I think the mini-mod maps get voted in about every other round.

Edit: This is prWARs Tequilabot. prWARs have some members that are community admins on this server. I wasn't trying to advertise a different server, just inviting people who are looking to play more mini-mod to join us late at night on =HOG=.

Edit2: Finally got my signature working.

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-02-14 14:08
by BigLouieG
That Brez guy, is a big slacker... Jk :D

It's currently the best USA teamwork server. As stated, we prWARs have played for a looonnnnnng time on the server, with the "old boys". And we HATE teamstacking, we are the first ones too switch over, if we see that the teams are unbalanced. (Not that we are war pros, or something else...) but a little help, will always come in handy.

PS: Just need a bit more variation on the maps, and bit off insurgency for the fun :grin:

See ya in the battlefield!

prWARs BigLouieG

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-02-17 23:18
by Felix
So another brilliant example of the extremely good competence of HOG admins: Just got kicked in the F16 on iron eagle and the reason being "sorry". Thank you very much!

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-02-17 23:45
by Souls Of Mischief
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Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-02-17 23:49
by brezmans
Will check out what happened, sorry to hear that. I will get back to you.

Re: =HOG= (North America)

Posted: 2013-02-18 15:34
by NBT
@ FelixCopyCat: It was me that kicked you - I'm sorry and I feel badly that you were flying a valuable team asset at the time.

The kick reason was "Admin, sorry!" - I was making room for a Server Admin. Unfortunately, I didn't recognise your tags as "protected" on the =HOG= server - my bad!

Also, I have compiled a list of the Top 300 players on the =HOG= Server (time served) and you were not on it plus you had negative teampoints so this is why you were the unlucky one...

If you regularly join us on our Ventrilo Server, I can guarantee that you won't get kicked for "Admin" unless you are AFK for an extended period of time.

Please accept my appologies and here's hoping that you can forgive my poor Admin skills.

=HOG= NaturalBornTarget

Posted: 2013-02-18 17:25
by L4gi
We use our own TS server when playing, so having TS, Mumble and ventrilo is a bit too much unfortunately.