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ShockUnitBlack wrote: Automatic Rifles/LMGs
Probably the HK23E or HK13E for the MEC - Not done as far as anybody here knows, although the vBF2 HK21E model could be pressed back into service in an emergency. It's also really just a modified G3, and the G3's done, so...

I've always been curious about how machine guns are distributed in armed forces that use an intermediate round like the NATO 7.62 round as standard ammo even for the average rifleman. I mean, technically, there would be no LMGs right? So what difference does it make if MEC uses an HK21 instead of an MG3?

jerkzilla wrote:I've always been curious about how machine guns are distributed in armed forces that use an intermediate round like the NATO 7.62 round as standard ammo even for the average rifleman. I mean, technically, there would be no LMGs right?

7.62mm NATO is considered a full-sized rather than intermediate cartridge.

In a squad support capacity you would still probably see GPMGs in the light machine-gun role (bipod only) with an assault box or drum magazine.

jerkzilla wrote:So what difference does it make if MEC uses an HK21 instead of an MG3?

In real-life, the difference would be at least 200 rpm cyclic (HK21: 900 / MG3: 1100-1200). But since this wonderful engine only works with factors of 1800, both would have the same in-game ROF (900).

the hk21 does have the ability to be chambered in 5.56x45, for the purpose of the difference between an AR and machine gunner kit would it be reasonable to have the mg3 in 7.62 and hk21 in 5.56?

This would give it less recoil and make it more of a shoulder firing weapon with the ability to deploy and accurately supress, as opposed to the mg3 which is mostly for deployed fire. I suppose that would make it the hk23e.

Thanks for clearing that up.

40mmrain wrote:the hk21 does have the ability to be chambered in 5.56x45, for the purpose of the difference between an AR and machine gunner kit would it be reasonable to have the mg3 in 7.62 and hk21 in 5.56?

This would give it less recoil and make it more of a shoulder firing weapon with the ability to deploy and accurately supress, as opposed to the mg3 which is mostly for deployed fire. I suppose that would make it the hk23e.

Well yeah, but MEC don't use anything that fires 5.56 so I'm guessing an hk23 wouldn't really fit that well.