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Re: Apc ammo

Posted: 2012-10-02 21:20
by karambaitos
if only there was someone that had a janes specifications magazine thingy, all disputes could be settled in second

anyway here are some sources on BMP-3 armor (who knows how accurate they are)
Front Armour
Gives protection from 30mm AP rounds of 2A42gun at a range of 300m at ?40?
Side Armour
Gives protection from 7.62mm AP bullets at point- blank range
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2542832/BMP3- ... ng-Vehicle
Hull and turret of this infantry fighting vehicle are made of aluminum alloy armor. The front arc is made of composite armor and provides protection against 30-mm armor-piercing rounds. Protection can be further enhanced with add-on explosive reactive armor kit. Furthermore the Arena active protection and Shtora countermeasures systems can be installed.
http://www.military-today.com/apc/bmp_3.htm

http://www.znamia.ru/eng/production_cat ... ary/bmp_3/

some old CIA estimates
http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC_000049 ... 498688.pdf

Re: Apc ammo

Posted: 2012-10-03 02:52
by 40mmrain
the plus/minus 40 degrees part is important, thats a huge lose of energy perpendicular to the armour itself.

Does that factor in the actual slope of the front itself, or assume enemies engaging at bad angles?

Re: Apc ammo

Posted: 2012-10-03 21:06
by karambaitos
40mmrain wrote:the plus/minus 40 degrees part is important, thats a huge lose of energy perpendicular to the armour itself.
the slope of the front armor its self

Re: Apc ammo

Posted: 2012-10-04 02:36
by Hunt3r
30mm AP is very weak, 30mm APFSDS is completely different story...

And I do agree that this is all pointless because the CV9035/40 is the king of IFV vs IFV combat, but sometimes you just need an ATGM.

Re: Apc ammo

Posted: 2012-10-04 07:50
by 40mmrain
too bad the the norwegians and finns use the 30mm. God damn a bofors would be sweet

Re: Apc ammo

Posted: 2012-10-05 01:00
by Hunt3r
40mmrain wrote:too bad the the norwegians and finns use the 30mm. God damn a bofors would be sweet
Meh, 30 or 35mm is fine as is. In a perfect world, the CV90 would have a CTA40 gun but that seems to be stalled.

Re: Apc ammo

Posted: 2012-10-09 18:35
by samogon100500
Still crying for nerf uber powerfull russian high-rpm cannons :)
With PRs view distance(Less that 1km) low powered AP rounds still effective,distance doesn't matter so much in PR,only firerate matters.When Bradley shoot 1 round,BMP got 3.
BMP IRL uses mixed links AP/APDS and HE-I/HE-FRAG.

Currently 30mm BMP cannon is most powerful in PR.Only 35-40mm cannon may be powerul even with smaller firerate.
25mm AP(FS)DS-T penetrate,because they have discarding sabot.