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Murphy wrote:DDS I've known you a number of years and enjoyed gaming with you so don't take it personal when I say

Were cool!

Murphy wrote:people with your attitude should just accept the game will never amount to an embellished memory of some vague moments from a few years ago.

I'm not on top of my house with a gun pointed to my head so you need no worry. Those were not 'vague moments' but years of good teamplay on 10th mountain division, tactics & teamwork ect.., I didn't play on TG until a couple years ago. Only compared with what was happening on other servers the choice was clear. No one imo can hold a candle to that today.

Murphy wrote:back in the TG days we had a huge team stack issue (when you joined the game you could easily tell which team was liable to steam roll by looking at which side had 32 to counter the other sides 31, THIS WAS NOT SUBJECT TO CHANGE EVER).

Nor should it. What exactly is wrong with team stacking when it's your clan and your server that you paid for? Hey if you think that just having clan tags on gives you immortality then I have a pair of numb-chucks to sell you. (good price, win fight every time). And by the way, teamstacking happens on EVERY server so don't fool yourself into thinking it was only TG.

I think PR players skill levels have dropped considerably always calculating who has what kit and where. No balls. They teamswitch because they can't handle upside down tactical situations. I used to be in a few clans and it's fun to play together but it didn't make us win all the time. With you and all my other skilled mates are on the other side. No tears.. Bring it on my brother.

You see I like a challenge, it's more realistic and fun for me. I understand that there are shallow players who teamswitch because they SUCK but thats not me. So I don't whine about it. I just step up my game as best I can. And to be honest those shallow pathetic players do move on.. because they hose suck kitchen sinks. Me (and you), were still here

Murphy wrote:you still fail to see the fact that nothing can change player habit.

Hmm.. Well servers with maturity and standards do change behavior. Funny thing about a ban is it doesn't let you play on that server ever again.

To get back on topic. I think the best way to attract new players is to have better servers.

"imagine all the players..."

DDS wrote:
Nor should it. What exactly is wrong with team stacking when it's your clan and your server that you paid for? Hey if you think that just having clan tags on gives you immortality then I have a pair of numb-chucks to sell you. (good price, win fight every time). And by the way, teamstacking happens on EVERY server so don't fool yourself into thinking it was only TG.

I think PR players skill levels have dropped considerably always calculating who has what kit and where.
Hmm.. Well servers with maturity and standards do change behavior. Funny thing about a ban is it doesn't let you play on that server ever again.

team stacking is a problem if 2 or more clans are all on 1 team while the other team is full of just pubs.

DDS wrote:
Hmm.. Well servers with maturity and standards do change behavior. Funny thing about a ban is it doesn't let you play on that server ever again.

....wasn't that why tg lost the population and eventually decided to shut down after running empty for a year or so?

team stacking...worst thing for server....most common complaint about H was team stack, and one of the reasons why we lost some of the good players. btw, funny that you think it's OK now .
i give thumbs up to CIA and HOG for avoiding a pitfall of clan team stack.
to both servers, i would suggest to be more proactive in keeping teams balanced. usually what happens is that half of the server leaves after a unbalanced round..

@Anderson...you are 100% correct in saying (couple of posts back) what happen to H was of our own making...

zmaj4791 wrote:....wasn't that why tg lost the population and eventually decided to shut down after running empty for a year or so?

team stacking...worst thing for server....most common complaint about H was team stack, and one of the reasons why we lost some of the good players. btw, funny that you think it's OK now .
i give thumbs up to CIA and HOG for avoiding a pitfall of clan team stack.
to both servers, i would suggest to be more proactive in keeping teams balanced. usually what happens is that half of the server leaves after a unbalanced round..

@Anderson...you are 100% correct in saying (couple of posts back) what happen to H was of our own making...

I would argue you lost players for more reasons than just teamstacking. Teamstacking is a symptom of a larger problem. Which the community would rather not talk about. People switch over to the other side, and I take note of who you are. It shows that they have no patience and no ability to improvise tactics. "ah **** MEC AR sucks.. switching over to US"

CIA and HOG avoid teamstack? Oh that's rich. Saw it last night on both servers. (HOG - Kashan - US 425 to MEC 0 ) If you are SERIOUS about not allowing teamstack. Turn off teamswitching then. But it wont happen because the truth is a lot of people switch over because they don't want to be challenged.. and dont have to.

To you new players to PR. Suck it up and challenge yourself every game you play... you'll be a better player in no time.

I read the forums here, think of reinstalling, and then I see nothing but eurotrash and people complaining about trivial matters, so I decide not to reinstall.

=HCM= Shwedor wrote:I read the forums here, think of reinstalling, and then I see nothing but eurotrash and people complaining about trivial matters, so I decide not to reinstall.

Your loss... PR is still the best game I play. If you have a good squad or clan members with you, there is no better team oriented game on the market.

Don't let the neigh sayer ruin it for you

DDS wrote:I would argue you lost players for more reasons than just teamstacking. Teamstacking is a symptom of a larger problem. Which the community would rather not talk about.

true..there has been a lot of issues, teamstack was just one of them. in my mind we just didn't adapt on time for whatever reasons....right Mike
as for community...they spoke their piece, but funny thing to me is that all the things that we have been bitched about, now those things are OK (elitism, teamstack, not helping noobs)...jut look at the posts in this thread..

DDS wrote: CIA and HOG avoid teamstack? Oh that's rich. Saw it last night on both servers. (HOG - Kashan - US 425 to MEC 0 )

i was on both servers last night to...both HOG and CIA had their own mixed on both sides, that's what i mean by not stacking. what we have been doing, and why we received a lot of flack was that one side consisted of 15-20 H members and we usually steamroll over the other side. both hog and cia avoid that...so far and it makes for good games..

DDS wrote: To you new players to PR. Suck it up and challenge yourself every game you play... you'll be a better player in no time.

^^^
+++1

=HCM= Shwedor wrote:I read the forums here, think of reinstalling, and then I see nothing but eurotrash and people complaining about trivial matters, so I decide not to reinstall.

You are responsible for your own actions, don't pin your lack of desire on someone's point of view. We're probably better off without people harboring anti-European sentiment, it's the likes of you who help fragment the community. Go back to BF3 and wear your American Flag with pride, thanks.

DDS wrote: CIA and HOG avoid teamstack? Oh that's rich. Saw it last night on both servers. (HOG - Kashan - US 425 to MEC 0 )

We don't stack all HOG guys on one side usually. Please check your facts before stating them.

All this talk about the glory of TG, yet it ran empty for a year and the so-called elite that played there only complains about the current state of affairs and doesn't move a muscle to try and change anything. Over at HOG we're working our f#%*)& asses off to try and get some teamwork in there, but the sad reality is that if we kick everyone who isn't playing a 100% like PR was meant to be, the server would be empty.

Stop moaning about it and do something about it. Start a squad, go for commander, relay intel, move as a team. These things don't happen if nobody starts with it. The past month I personally have tried my very best to lead a squad in 80% of the rounds I play, I try to co-ordinate on mumble, I try to explain to my squad what I expect of them, to move as a squad, to not give up until there is no more chance of reviving, to stick together but not bunch up, to keep some comms-discipline. These things take time to build yet all the 'old-timers' only complain and complain and nobody gets off their *** and actually tries to get it done.

Recently I have seen some really really great teamplay emerge on our server, something I haven't seen in a very long time on ANY server. It gives me hope. And it means that at least some people have stopped wallowing in loathing and come out and gave it a go. Join them.

...we may be going of topic here. i didn't started this to bash any clans or to cause other clans to bash each other...
more servers there are, the more fun for everybody. use your facebook, twiter, reddit, whatever, spread the word about PR. ....

I really think that PR takes a certain type of player to be played. But social media and the Tube is the answer. Contact some big youtuber that play somewhat similar games and ask them to try it out and make a review. Then a lot of other gamers will get to know about it and hopefully these are players who also we want.

=HCM= Shwedor wrote:I read the forums here, think of reinstalling, and then I see nothing but eurotrash and people complaining about trivial matters, so I decide not to reinstall.

Eurotrash?

Do you mean europeans trash talking or trash talking of europeans?

=HCM= Shwedor wrote:I read the forums here, think of reinstalling, and then I see nothing but eurotrash and people complaining about trivial matters, so I decide not to reinstall.

Eurotrash?

Do you mean europeans trash talking or trash talking of europeans?

brezmans wrote:We don't stack all HOG guys on one side usually. Please check your facts before stating them.

Fact: last night the team was stacked againts MEC team .
I did not say it was all HOG clansmen. Please check your facts.

brezmans wrote: if we kick everyone who isn't playing a 100% like PR was meant to be, the server would be empty.

How about reprimand those who dont? Or politely suggest?

If I go into a restaurant that has a sign (rule) on the door that say's 'No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service' and I go in there buck naked and get served a steak and french fries.. who's fault is that?

And whats this 'PR was meant to be'? what are you suggesting here?

brezmans wrote:Stop moaning about it and do something about it. Start a squad, go for commander, relay intel, move as a team.

This is what I do everytime I play. But I will point out what I see to be wrong whether you like it or not.

I try and try and try.... But my friends are all the type that are not interested in anything but COD.

godfather_596 wrote:I try and try and try.... But my friends are all the type that are not interested in anything but COD.

I think the release of 1.0 is a good opportunity to see new players. These new release devcasts of info is really looking great so far.

Me, I was excited to hear a girls voice once in our squad a couple months back. She was our medic and did ok. The guys were like 'hubba hubba' but overall polite. I think it would be a real kick to have more girls playing. I remember there were a few from time to time. Imagine the level testosterone levels ingame! Ha!

brezmans wrote:All this talk about the glory of TG, yet it ran empty for a year and the so-called elite that played there only complains about the current state of affairs and doesn't move a muscle to try and change anything.

We made suggestions and gave input. That these things were discarded because they didn't fit the grand vision of telling people that they're only allowed to play with the dev team's toys on the dev team's rules is no sweat off my back. I washed my hands of this mess when it became clear that anything other than praise wasn't welcome, and the rounds all became unambiguously and routinely two or more hour slogs with people I didn't see eye to eye with on maps I didn't enjoy with equipment that isn't fun to use after being saddled with tons of arbitrary restrictions that don't curb "bad" behavior anyway.

DDS wrote:I think the release of 1.0 is a good opportunity to see new players. These new release devcasts of info is really looking great so far.

Me, I was excited to hear a girls voice once in our squad a couple months back. She was our medic and did ok. The guys were like 'hubba hubba' but overall polite. I think it would be a real kick to have more girls playing. I remember there were a few from time to time. Imagine the level testosterone levels ingame! Ha!

More girls would be awesome! Just don't scare them off with the sausage-fest filled 'hubba hubbas' ;P

I'm almost sure of who she is. Treat her nicely. She isn't put off easily by cheap remarks, but I hope our community is mature enough to respect her as a player.

Wicca?