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That was a subpar system using the chat like that, and it was temporary. What issue was it specifically that you had an issue with?

[R-DEV]M42 Zwilling wrote:Again, what did I do that is being considered bullying? Was it just the two messages, "strike 4" and "mad", that I mentioned before?

If you want to discuss the details of your ban you can appeal.

Mickey Mouse wrote:A few months ago i was kicked by both squid and wicca in the same day for "sarcasm" At the time FCV had a discord channel for reports. I am not sure what happened with squid but with wicca I do remember the circumstances. I had not played on FCV in the while so I had not known there was a map list. I asked if there would be a mapvote and wicca told me there was a map list to which I replied "rip". I was then instantly kicked for "sarcasm" I reported the indecent there and the only person to reply was wicca. I asked him if it was proper for the admin who was being reported to be the one to handle the report. I have included a screenshot from wicca and I's PMs. Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet

This one

Wicca wrote:If you want to discuss the details of your ban you can appeal.

I would if I thought it was going to be taken seriously, but I got the impression here that you made up your mind already. If am wrong about this, you can tell me exactly what I did so I will know if I have any chance of explaining it in my appeal in a way that will prove to FCV's admins I intended no undue harm.

The imgur link doesnt work.

We have a new rule/policy that basically states that we dont want to have KYS, RIP or other negative comments in the allchat, or aimed at players or admins.

We do not mind banter between friends or foes that fit into the gameplay or in a roleplay manner, but if you ask an admin something, and then your reaction to the information is RIP in allchat, we feel that creates a negative atmosphere.

[R-DEV]M42 Zwilling wrote:I would if I thought it was going to be taken seriously, but I got the impression here that you made up your mind already. If am wrong about this, you can tell me exactly what I did so I will know if I have any chance of explaining it in my appeal in a way that will prove to FCV's admins I intended no undue harm.

This is more a deal of us explaining what we observed, or if we made an error in the observation. And then either having you correct the behaviour, or we correcting it in our adminteam/rules or policy.

Wicca wrote: We do not mind banter between friends or foes that fit into the gameplay or in a roleplay manner

So when a player makes a game play based mistake and someone comments on it in a banter type way like idk "strike 3" or another sports mistake term, according to you its fine right? unless its an admin right? because rule 1.1.1 Admins are above the rules.

With squid you did it repeatedly, you even stated you all had the same tag, and supposedly had seperated the clan into strikes.

Like that was abit too far. Otherwise I don't mind friendly banter.

I mean you even made a meme out of him, used his real picture AFAIK..

It's just to far, and if you don't see that, I kinda don't know what to tell you.

Other than that, if someone makes a mistake, and you know em, and you call them out, our admins and myself could not care less. But if you call out offensive slurs, names in local, other mumble channels or allchat, you could get kicked or banned for it.

Wicca wrote:With squid you did it repeatedly, you even stated you all had the same tag, and supposedly had seperated the clan into strikes.

Like that was abit too far. Otherwise I don't mind friendly banter.

I mean you even made a meme out of him, used his real picture AFAIK..

It's just to far, and if you don't see that, I kinda don't know what to tell you.

Other than that, if someone makes a mistake, and you know em, and you call them out, our admins and myself could not care less. But if you call out offensive slurs, names in local, other mumble channels or allchat, you could get kicked or banned for it.

woah woah woah who said anything about squid. I was asking a question which did not get answered. Yet again your feelings and personal issues are preventing you from answering logically

Wicca wrote:
Other than that, if someone makes a mistake, and you know em, and you call them out, our admins and myself could not care less. But if you call out offensive slurs, names in local, other mumble channels or allchat, you could get kicked or banned for it.

Mickey, I see what you are trying to do. It's pathetic. It is not ok to repeatedly berate someone you do not know.

If you think otherwise you are not welcome on the server. Does not matter if it was LS or not.

Sometimes when a mistake is made especially by a person in power the only way to make it obvious is comedy and or satire. TZ are experts at this we spend time to extrapolate data and learn what needs to be emphasized. In this case we were trying to improve FCV by exposing its admins Emotional tendencies and hopefully have the admins improve their behaviors by being less impulsive. We obviously failed because instead of trying to be less sensitive and more logical the entire admin team went the opposite way. I will not deny that we were purposefully making a meme out of the Strike 4 incident. We were showing that the softest poke can make your admins go ban happy and we succeeded. Part of being in a position of power especially on the internet is having thick skin. You should make this an admin requirement, even if you don't meet it yourself.

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Wicca wrote:The imgur link doesnt work.

We have a new rule/policy that basically states that we dont want to have KYS, RIP or other negative comments in the allchat, or aimed at players or admins.

We do not mind banter between friends or foes that fit into the gameplay or in a roleplay manner, but if you ask an admin something, and then your reaction to the information is RIP in allchat, we feel that creates a negative atmosphere.

So can you explain to me how is strike number 4 a negative comment or in anyway aimed at anyone since i have no clue. Cause since i didnt aimed anyone when i said that in allchat and still got kick for it reason stop being a ****. Thats was the day before your admins decided to kick tz#4 as a proof of bullying

[17:58:10 GLOBAL] [TZ] shifty454: stirke number 4
[17:58:22 SQUAD 4] NP|SSG little-squid: !k shifty stop being a ****



Other fcv chat logs:

[03:12:42 GLOBAL] SgtSharpEye: i knew this server + admins had a rep, but man....

This is chat logs after the admin kick zwilling and others :

[13:48:04 TEAM 1] prWARs TR00P3R: lawl these rules are just
[13:48:10 TEAM 1] [OM] Hunter291: cancer
[13:48:17 TEAM 1] [6-1] deadmanfoot: the admins are even worst than the rules
[13:48:56 GLOBAL] prWARs TR00P3R: had to use the find function to find out what rules he was talking about took me to the 7th page of 17 fucking pages of rules
[13:51:28 GLOBAL] [OM] Hunter291: are you getting wicca to fight ur battles?
[13:53:06 GLOBAL] prWARs TR00P3R: brah 2.1.1 if you disagree with an admin in anyway, kicked lmao
[13:53:47 GLOBAL] [6-1] deadmanfoot: mere shell of its former cancerous glory
[13:54:08 GLOBAL] [6-1] deadmanfoot: its the shitty admins like squid
[13:54:13 GLOBAL] [6-1] deadmanfoot: tat kill the server
[13:54:23 GLOBAL] EZ8: quid is bad admin

Admins kicking admins :

[17:34:48 TEAM 2] NP|SGT FAJ: !k squid shooting into DoD
[13:44:23 SQUAD 2] JTF Hitman2Actual: !k squid stop kicking

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