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[R-MOD]Darkpowder wrote:There is evidence that this is a design purely developed in the U.S.S.R and not "borrowed" at all. Who knows?

However, actual resemblance is very superficial as the Su-25 does not use high-bypass engines, and work on what later became the Su-25 began in 1968, four years before YA-9's first flight.

Liquid_Cow wrote:From the Wiki article you cite:


For those who don't understand the US aircraft numeration scheme (it can be very confusing):

This system was established during WWII, prior to the war aircraft designations were based on manufacturer, so the F-4U Corsair does not fit this scheme, but the P-51D Mustang does.

AB-1C

Where A is a modification or additional role of the aircraft

Where B is the main function of the aircraft

Where 1 is the series number as selected by the Pentagon

Where C is the modification of the aircraft

Examples:

Function letters:
A- Attack A-4D Skyhawk
B- Bomber B-52G Stratobomber
C- Cargo C-5B Galaxy
E- Electronic Warfare E-2A Hawkeye
F- Fighter F-15E Eagle
H- Helicopter H-1U Huey
O- Observation O-1F Bird Dog
P- Pursuit (Old name for Fighters) P-51D Mustang
P- Patrol P-3A Orion
S- Anti-Submarine S-3B Viking
T- Trainer T-38A Talon
U- Utility U-2R
V- VSTOL** AV-8B Harrier
X- Experimental Bell X-1 (1st supersonic airplane)

Variant Letters
A- Attack AH-64A Apache AC-130H Spectre
C- Cargo CH-47D Iroquois (mostly in helicopters)
E- Electronic Warfare EA-6B Prowler EF-111A Raven
F- Fighter FB-111A Aardvark FA-18A Hornet
H- Rescue HH-60J Jayhawk HC-130P Hercules
K- Tanker KC-135A Stratotanker KA-6B Intruder
M- Minesweeper MH-53A Sea Stallion
O- Observation OA-10A Thunderbolt II OA-4D Skyhawk
R- Recon RA-5A Vigilant RF-4B Phantom
S- Special SR-71A Blackbird
Y- Prototype YA-17 (Prototype that became the FA-18 with some modifications)


There may be others I don't know off the top of my head.

Petey wrote:ahh thanks alot!!
where u in the military anytime during your life? cause u know alot of stuff about this!

Leo wrote:Liquid is to Everything Military as Bob Marley is to rifles

Petey wrote:i also heard that the a-10 has a "fake" cockpit on its bellyside to trick other fighters

Leo wrote:Well, Bob Marley is like a walking encyclopedia on rifle, so lets say he's "The Wold's Guide To Rifles"

Liquid_Cow wrote:What the hell is that supposed to mean???

Petey, yes I spent time in the military, as you may have guessed I also worked on aircraft.

Liquid_Cow wrote:I was a technician. Plus I had wanted to be a pilot since I was a very young kid, but I was too tall by the time I was old enough to join.

Liquid_Cow wrote:

Its designed to make it hard to tell which way the plane is turning in a hard bank, as in this photo...

Liquid_Cow wrote:I am 6'6" tall, max was(at least when I was trying to join) was 6'4", any taller and you might hit the canopy before your ejection seat does, you be really bad for your spine. Remember Goose in Top Gun? He was too tall

Outlawz wrote:You'd really had to be stupid to be fooled by that one, since everyone knows, that weapons are under the wings, so that has to be the underside...

Tweaky wrote:I'd agree to this.

The A-10 in reallife has all the hitech weapon systems really. The Frogfoot doesn't even have a HUD... and still old-school navigation equipment . (PR makes an exception with a hud, unfortuneately)

As for in PR. The A-10 is far better than the Frogfoot in many areas. They both have the same amount of bombs (2), guided missiles (4), and AA missiles (2), so no differences there.

But the amount of rockets versus cannon bullets is a big difference. The Frogfoot as 128 rockets which are GREAT for infantry because of the huge splash damage they have, however since they are left-right unloading, they are not 100% accurate in your crosshairs. When trying to kill armor, you usually have to unload a lot of rockets to get a kill, and your gun ammo which is limited can only help so much. Thus you run out of rockets and gun ammo quickly, and usually have to make a 2nd pass on your target (NOT GOOD).

As for the A-10, the 15 some-odd rockets is just there for the last remaining kills if you need to finish off a smoking tank or something (or get some infantry). The A-10 cannon is far superior than the rockets when killing armor, no question about that. You can do one full dive/pass on a heavy armor tank and kill it with your cannon, easily. And with 1500 rounds, you can stay up quite long using the gun after you've run out of all the other heavy rounds. A-10 can stay up much longer in my opinion, and has a much better role at killing armor (heh, what its made to do!). I love the A-10, and the SU25 is fun too if I so happen to be on MEC side. But I'd take the A-10 over the SU25 any day.

I've stayed in the air longer using only the gun left as ammo, and it is a life saver (for me and other teammates). Especially when your teammates tell you migs are in the air and they need to shoot them down before you can safely land on the runway --- Meanwhile you can continue to give support with just your cannon and help the team.