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On the website of the Dutch MoD they have a nice demonstration movie about the CV9035NL

| Ministerie van Defensie

Interesting thing is they mention they 35mm main gun can be changed to a 50mm gun with a minor modification.

Sure they didn’t mean a 40mm? I have never heard of a CV90 fitted with a 50mm. Thanks for the refs

Edit: Can't read Dutch, but I guess this has something to do with it: " Het kanon kan met een paar kleine wijzigingen ook 50 mm munitie verschieten". But the name 35/50 does not mean interchangeable ammunition, rather 35mm/50 caliber, so I guess they mean something else?

Edit2: google-translated it, and I guess they have missunderstood the 35/50 denotation, or am I missing something?

FastWinston wrote:Sure they didn’t mean a 40mm? I have never heard of a CV90 fitted with a 50mm. Thanks for the refs

Edit: Can't read Dutch, but I guess this has something to do with it: " Het kanon kan met een paar kleine wijzigingen ook 50 mm munitie verschieten". But the name 35/50 does not mean interchangeable ammunition, rather 35mm/50 caliber, so I guess they mean something else?

Yep its another type bushmaster gun than the Norwegian version.

CV9035 mkIII

In December 2004, the Netherlands signed a contract for 184 CV9035 mkIII vehicles. The vehicle entered service with the Dutch Army in December 2008. Van Halteren Metaal of the Netherlands is responsible for turret assembly and integration.

The CV9035 mkIII features a Bushmaster III 35/50 cannon, Saab UTAAS fire control system with ammunition programmer, a rotating cupola that provides hunter-killer capability and commander and gunner stabilised day / night sights with third-generation thermal cameras.

The mkIII has a new armour package, supplied by RUAG Land Systems with increased protection against top-attack weapons and mines and is fitted with Hägglunds's defensive aids suite (DAS) with laser warner and smoke grenades.

In June 2005, Thales Optronics was awarded the contract for the vehicle's MT-DNGS commander's sight, which will include the Claire mid-wave (3 to 5 micron) thermal camera, and the UTAAS with the long-wave (8 to 12 micron) Catherine XP thermal camera.

In December 2005, Denmark ordered 45 CV9035 mkIII vehicles. The first was delivered in October 2007 and deliveries are scheduled to conclude in 2009

Source:
CV90 Tracked Armoured Combat Vehicles - Army Technology

Yes I know that the Norwegian cv90 uses another gun (a 30 mm Bushmaster II), but still a Bushmaster III 35/50 does not fire 50mm, but 50 caliber (35mm). If counting by the size of the gun, after the CV9040 (40mm bofors), comes the CV90120T light tank (120mm smoothbore), AFAIK there is nothing in between.

Ill ask arround about that , but for our ingame version will just keep it at 35mm

FastWinston wrote: but still a Bushmaster III 35/50 does not fire 50mm, but 50 caliber (35mm).

Isn't the .50 caliber 12.7mm?

yes the .50 is 12.7mm (note the . mark). But I am getting no smarter when trying to figure this out... It can't mean 50. caliber ( 1.27m.) and not 50mm either, and 35mm = 1.377953 inches. And no way can the same gun fire both 35mm and 50mm ammunition; the whole system with barrel and loading mechanism must be changed

FastWinston wrote:Sure they didn’t mean a 40mm? I have never heard of a CV90 fitted with a 50mm. Thanks for the refs

Edit: Can't read Dutch, but I guess this has something to do with it: " Het kanon kan met een paar kleine wijzigingen ook 50 mm munitie verschieten". But the name 35/50 does not mean interchangeable ammunition, rather 35mm/50 caliber, so I guess they mean something else?

Edit2: google-translated it, and I guess they have missunderstood the 35/50 denotation, or am I missing something?

It says: The gun can fire 50mm ammo with a minor modification.

PDF from bae systems:
http://www.baesystems.com/BAEProd/group ... ibroch.pdf

35mm, nothing about 50mm

FastWinston wrote:PDF from bae systems:
http://www.baesystems.com/BAEProd/group ... ibroch.pdf

35mm, nothing about 50mm

See Turret/main armanent: its says 35/50mm dual feed

yes, that means the chain gun feeds from two sides, not two ammunitions. I have found some info on the 50mm statement: "An earlier, similar, exercise was to neck out the 35x228 Oerlikon case to create the 50x330 ‘Supershot’. However, the Super 40 and the 50mm Supershot have not so far proceeded beyond the development stage: work on the latter has been stopped entirely, and while development of the Super 40 the former had been proceeding at a low level, GD-OTS seem to have recently accelerated work due to the prospect of the WFLIP order discussed below"

from Light AFV guns and the WLIP project, he posts no sources though

Edit: This is the only dual caliber cannon I have found so far, the Rh 503-35: Army Guide - Rh 503-35, Gun, but "At present there is no production application for this 35/50 mm weapon"


Edit2: Hm, looks like it might be possible (the 35x228 ammunition has a base of 55mm), but there is almost no info to be found on the net...

Edit3: But it looks like you are right! "The Bushmaster III has currently only been sold in its 35 mm version. It appears that no progress is now being made on further developing the 50 mm Supershot ammunition, presumably until a prospective purchaser emerges." from http://www.janes.com/extracts/extract/jah/jah_0170.html

Edit4: The last edit, wasted enough time wondering about this : the truth can be found within: http://www.atk.com/ammo_PDFs/gunsystems.pdf. Ah, what a nice google-fu workout!

Hey Winston,

Has there been any progress so far?

Greetz,

Glimmer

[R-CON]162eRI wrote:(If I'm not mistaken >) He is in holidays for now

Plenty of time to finnish it then

Hello boys and girls! I'm back from my little Middle Eastern trip, but have some bad news. My computer did not enjoy its alone time away from me and has decided to act up on me and throw me a hissy fit, but not to worry, my 3DS max files are backed up and there is not too much left to do.

Modeling-wise, my problem now is that the turret collides with the back of the heightened part of the vehicle, but that is a fixable problem, although a really boring and fiddly one The laptop should be up and running in a while, but the one I’m currently using is too weak to pull 3DS max..

You mean that it collides with the hatch on the back like on the Norwegian one?

The front lower lip of the turret collides with the raised, back part of the hull, when the turret does a 360/180 turn. The barrel I don’t care about, but I guess it collides in the same way the Norwegian one did, although there is no dome-shaped rear hatch on your CV like the Norwegian one has, but I think it touches the hull slightly. Almost all of the PR models have the barrel problem, but I want the turret to be as little of a problem as possible.

Ahh ok, hope you can fix it.

Any news yet