Darkpowder wrote:Great bit of modelling work, personally because of the warhead used in the CG and the calibre, it should perhaps be classified as light-at?
But if the weapon is described as having the "FFV751" It seems doubtful an australian army would deploy against insurgents or taleban with this round. Too risky (especially in PR).
HEDP or HE would seem like a better option, which would imo, take it to the level of an AT-4 or equivalent.
Not sure about the SRAAW deployment thesedays, any US units still use it?
Main reason to have it as a HAT, is the slow loading time, compared to a disposable AT.
On balance, i think we need to ensure that every "new faction" "community faction" at least has the potential to become a full-on full scale large-scale deployed army, it would be a shame to limit anti-armour capability by nerfing the HAT.
Final thought is you use the -same- CG for HAT and LAT, simply designating a different round-loadout for each.
FFV751 Tandem for HAT
FFV502 for LAT
ADF personnel can load and shoot 6 rounds in one minute, it's a requirement of qualification. that's six rounds a minute.
the heat 751 is used by the ADF and it is used in theater. (see below) ADF use all the current munitions available.
Final thought is you use the -same- CG for HAT and LAT, simply designating a different round-loadout for each.
that's actually a really good point i cant see why this cant work. with the HAT variant using the 751 and the LAT the HE 441D.
all that being said and done though the ADF does use javelin's today, it only needs to be brought in game by the devs
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-06-28 10:21
by Rudd
all that being said and done though the ADF does use javelin's today, it only needs to be brought in game by the devs
well, I think the only hope there is if CA can put it in to a form that the DEVs can accept.
I don't see the problem with having a huge lock on time in order to balance it.
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-06-28 10:23
by anglomanii
i think the problem might be that they are fire and forget.
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-06-28 14:35
by Darkpowder
anglomanii wrote:i think the problem might be that they are fire and forget.
That's not a problem for the Tandem RPG used by the Militia or the Russian forces, its a HAT fire and forget too.
Glad there is some support for the "Same Recoilless Rifle - different ammo" idea for LAT and HAT.
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-06-30 13:02
by anglomanii
Gus gets stuck in @42sec. watch the dust up.
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-07-08 11:47
by anglomanii
nice loading and unloading
still trying to find one with only a single crew
how do you think you will be able to animate it with one person as the operator, i looks kind of fiddly.
oh also i found out how the ammo is transported. the rounds come in a plastic container that holds two similar rounds side by side. i just cant find a decent picture.
what do you think of the hat/lat idea?
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-07-08 12:58
by Scot
anglomanii wrote:how do you think you will be able to animate it with one person as the operator, i looks kind of fiddly.
oh also i found out how the ammo is transported. the rounds come in a plastic container that holds two similar rounds side by side. i just cant find a decent picture.
what do you think of the hat/lat idea?
Similar to Mortar rounds I think if thats what you're describing...
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-07-08 13:37
by Tonnie
[R-DEV]Chuc wrote:Can't wait to animate the bugger
well there sitting here ready for you mate
Just remember tho we can fire accurately 6 rounds a min so keep that in mind with reloading animations and such.
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-07-08 13:38
by Chuc
10 second reload is more than enough I reckon.
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-07-08 13:43
by anglomanii
are we still going to be stuck to one round? reloads?
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-08-23 06:15
by D2v0n279
'[R-DEV wrote:Tonnie;678030']was talking to Nedlands last night on msn... He said that he would like me to start on this model, reason being that we need it along with the styer and prob the bushmaster to get the greenlight... The model has only been worked on for about 1 1/2 hrs now so yer... working on sight atm... Anyway here is my Carl Gustav M3 Model.
I like. Is that? Hat or LAT?
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-08-23 08:00
by ReconAus
From my understanding the scoped version will be the HAT and then the iron sights will be the LAT.
Recon
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-08-23 08:01
by Tonnie
will be both... Iron sight for LAT with a High explosive round then having the HAT a penetrable explosive round so there for more effective against tanks and the like
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-08-23 08:01
by Chuc
We'll play around with it, first we gotta get these assets ingame
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-08-23 09:03
by Tonnie
ingame waiting on animations
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-08-23 09:42
by Warpig-
Not going with the LAW for the lat kit? I guess that kinda makes sense though
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-08-23 12:33
by Jimbom
So is the current idea to use the Iron Sight 84 with a HEDP or HE type round as the LAT and the Optic Sight with a HEAT or HEAT-RAP round for the HAT?
Would it be at all possible to give the HAT kit several different ammo natures so have 1 HEAT round and a selectable HE (or HEDP) and/or Smoke round to reflect the versatility that this weapon has to offer in the fact that it is reloadable and comes with a variety of different rounds?
Re: [Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]
Posted: 2009-08-24 06:54
by bakehouse
Jimbom wrote:So is the current idea to use the Iron Sight 84 with a HEDP or HE type round as the LAT and the Optic Sight with a HEAT or HEAT-RAP round for the HAT?
Would it be at all possible to give the HAT kit several different ammo natures so have 1 HEAT round and a selectable HE (or HEDP) and/or Smoke round to reflect the versatility that this weapon has to offer in the fact that it is reloadable and comes with a variety of different rounds?
