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Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 06:15
by TonkaTruck
No. The EpiPen wouldn't be used period. I hate to disagree with you, I know it sounds like a good idea. However, the EpiPen is used for allergic reactions. Unless the soldier got stung by a bee or ate peanuts and can't breath, I wouldn't even consider the Epipen. Bandages, Roller Gause and treatment for shock and immediate heli-evac would be the order of business. Or in the PR world..Compressions/Breaths, Defib, Medbag.
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 06:17
by gclark03
Yes, but there's already been a ton of work invested in that EpiPen animation and model, and throwing it away would be foolish for the DEVs, so I tried to justify its use in my suggestion.
Anyway, I like where this whole thing is going - making the Medic's job more complicated, and forcing the medic to only revive soldiers when the area is somewhat safe. There's nothing I hate more than seeing an enemy medic revive his squad leader while under fire, heal him in a few seconds, and run away with his squad.
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 06:22
by TonkaTruck
I know, I'd hate to see it too. However, there is no feasible excuse to use it in a battlefield unless the person is having an allergic reaction. Maybe they can rename it to something else, like morphine. I do hope they research it throughly.
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 06:23
by [T]blackflybro88
guys just to be clear EpiPen is the injector all right any thing could be in it i found the the French use them in there first aid its better the carrying needles around. i could be wrong so don't chew me out about. and im sure the devs did research on it and wouldn't put in in there if it wasn't reality
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 06:25
by gclark03
Let's let the DEVs, among whom someone knows the answers, sort out the details of the Medic class. I've already given a dime where everyone else has given two cents...
There's nothing negative about the Medic video I can think of, not even the 'controversial' autoinjector. DEVs, thank you for sending us another video that doesn't feature Rick Astley!
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 06:28
by TonkaTruck
I'd like to explain also, that I am a soon-to-be EMT (Test is next thursday, w00t!) and volunteer firefighter. I've run my share of CPR calls and EMT calls period. So don't discount my word when I'm explaining the stuff about the EpiPen auto-injector. I'd just hate to have the immerison of the game ruined by such a simple change. =|
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 06:32
by Polka
Holy sh...epic.
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 06:38
by TonkaTruck
'[T wrote:blackflybro88;753333']guys just to be clear EpiPen is the injector all right any thing could be in it i found the the French use them in there first aid its better the carrying needles around. i could be wrong so don't chew me out about. and im sure the devs did research on it and wouldn't put in in there if it wasn't reality
That's the french and I'm pretty sure they use it for the same reason as we do. Anaphylactic reactions. =|
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 06:45
by [T]blackflybro88
TonkaTruck wrote:I'd like to explain also, that I am a soon-to-be EMT (Test is next thursday, w00t!) and volunteer firefighter. I've run my share of CPR calls and EMT calls period. So don't discount my word when I'm explaining the stuff about the EpiPen auto-injector. I'd just hate to have the immerison of the game ruined by such a simple change. =|
Man nobody is discount your input ALL im saying is the the devs wouldn't put something in with out researching into it(i hope:razz

. so chill out.
p.s. the military dont use the same things as emts
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 06:46
by Oklahoman
I don't think we need to over complicate the medic any more.... Adding extra steps to an already difficult process will make being a medic more of a hassle than challenge. I mean, this new procedure is already going to be tough to pull off in a firefight.
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 06:52
by TonkaTruck
'[T wrote:blackflybro88;753345']Man nobody is discount your input ALL im saying is the the devs wouldn't put something in with out researching into it(i hope:razz

. so chill out.
p.s. the military dont use the same things as emts
They do actually. The only difference is that they have to do it in a more stressful environment. An EpiPen is going to do the same thing regardless if it's being used on a casuality in a war or a civilian.
All I'm suggesting is scrap the EpiPen step and replace it with the defib. It's just replacing a model and name with another one.
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 07:09
by Psyrus
Oklahoman wrote:I don't think we need to over complicate the medic any more.... Adding extra steps to an already difficult process will make being a medic more of a hassle than challenge. I mean, this new procedure is already going to be tough to pull off in a firefight.
As far as I know they're changing the medic dynamics so that you won't have to do it in firefights anymore... you can clear the area first and then worry about reviving:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f245-j ... amics.html
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 07:54
by Rezza
Ok everything is ok now the most important part you gotta infrom everybody we have less medics in the game anyway and now its getting complicated lol the new players wont make it

and i dont want to explain stuff in a 2 full squad firefight lol

i hope you type it in as a tip box in the map loading because this is really important

Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 07:54
by Conman51
thats waht ur suposed to do any way
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 07:57
by Ironcomatose
Rezza wrote:Ok everything is ok now the most important part you gotta infrom everybody we have less medics in the game anyway and now its getting complicated lol the new players wont make it

and i dont want to explain stuff in a 2 full squad firefight lol

i hope you type it in as a tip box in the map loading because this is really important
Yeah i hope they release a manual too, so those new guys can read it......oh wait....
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 08:09
by Razick
Fellas be realistic here, Its either this or the old stuff. Make up your mind and shut up till the approach of the next release.
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 08:13
by Saint
As Vicky pollard would say: "Oh-my-god! I really cant believe you just did that! You guys are bringing this game to the top. And i really want to see this!"
So with the next release you bring a 200 pages manual with it?

i think newbies will need it
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 08:30
by markonymous
cant hold it in, must scream!
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is so incredibly amazing!!!!! 0.8 is gonna rip of the neck and shit down the throat of all other games!!
just noticed that you scream clear when giving him adrenaline why?
Re: [CLASS] Medic!
Posted: 2008-08-03 08:36
by janh95
freakin awesome
i saw a 3RD Infantry Arm Patch FREAKIN AWESOME