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Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-09-24 20:31
by Tirak
Fishw0rk wrote:+12345
I seriously miss the naval battles from BF1942 and FH. I loved crusing around in a sub while listening for pings. Then slowly emerging to have my persicope peak slightly above water level. I loved hammering the airfields with the cannons on the battleships. I loved moving the aircraft carrier to remote locations in order to avoid enemy destroyers & battleships. Sooooooooo much fun.
The problem is we'll never see that in BF2 because the engine poorly handles collisions between players and moving vehicles. In BF1942 you could stand on a moving vehicle (the deck of a ship, or the wings of a transport plane) without taking any damage, but in BF2 you will die. So having a moving aircraft carrier or other medium-large sized ship is not possible, because all of the players not in a seat would die once it started moving.
So ultimately PR will have to stick with smaller boats that fit 6-8 people max. I'd still like to see this happen even if we can't get the old naval battles of FH.
Well the ships would move rather slowly, so people could still move around on them, as for aircraft, if someone knows anything about the Titan code from 2142 and see if it could be used, I doubt that though.
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-09-25 15:33
by Octane
Tirak wrote:This isn't going far enough

I want full naval battles between assault ships with marines bording them and blowing things up and destroyers and missile cruisers and aircraft and... okay, I'll calm down now. I support this idea and beyond.
That would be odd...it'd run into the same flak one-man armor does, and for even better reason. I mean...let's face it, you will never get 200+ people to crew a single ship on PR.
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-09-25 15:55
by Phoenix.86
Tirak wrote:Well the ships would move rather slowly, so people could still move around on them, as for aircraft, if someone knows anything about the Titan code from 2142 and see if it could be used, I doubt that though.
Just caused shitloads of lag in the closed beta, which ended with most server admins just kicking any commander who tried moving those beasts too close to the other side ones. Dunno about the full version, but as this was a fundamental problem I doubt this works flawless now... not talking about porting it over to bf2.
Anyway +1 to pbr's and other small crafts
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-09-25 16:53
by slayer
Smaller battleships like cruisers and destroyers are fine, bigger are stupid.
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-09-25 17:34
by DeltaFart
My thought is that we should have riverine operations. As it is now, the maps are all about the tanks and the land vehicles. The same RIB is still in use since the BF2 Demo, and the only time I've seen it changed was in OPK, where they put an Mg3 on it. I think PR should start looking at some maritime maps where alot of the support that is needed comes from boats.
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-09-26 05:41
by Teek
DeltaFart wrote: I think PR should start looking at some maritime maps where alot of the support that is needed comes from boats.
Like Barracuda 16? only thing that spawns is boats
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-09-26 06:12
by Orthas
16p maps are for infantry battles, how many times do you see decently populated servers play these?
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-09-26 06:19
by Raegron
Tirak wrote:Well the ships would move rather slowly, so people could still move around on them, as for aircraft, if someone knows anything about the Titan code from 2142 and see if it could be used, I doubt that though.
I believe the inside of the titan is a location somewhere else on the map, right? You see the titan floating around somewhere, but when you enter it, you're "teleported" to another part of the map, where a "static" and "non-moving" titan is. But you can't tell the difference, to you it just seems like you're inside that floating thing.
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-09-26 08:42
by M.0.D
No, it works just fine in the final release, and you can stand inside of the hangar and shoot the guys on the ground, so this thing actually moves. Anyway i don't like the BF2142 gameplay g*
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-09-26 11:57
by Tirak
Raegron wrote:I believe the inside of the titan is a location somewhere else on the map, right? You see the titan floating around somewhere, but when you enter it, you're "teleported" to another part of the map, where a "static" and "non-moving" titan is. But you can't tell the difference, to you it just seems like you're inside that floating thing.
No, the titan is a giant moving object in the sky. All the corridors are inside of it and moving with the outside. How else would drop pod wreckage fall through and your body glitch in the walls to see the outside, or even fall out of the titan?
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-09-27 09:53
by .:iGi:.NinjaJedi
i like the idea of another couple of patrol boats, especially hagardy-*** insurgent converted cabin cruisers with a RPK stuck on the roof lol.
would be nice on baracuda/zatar/Bi Ming like maps, where the support the boats could provide would bring something to the gameplay.
Kinda like Mestia but with more rivers.
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-10-16 15:55
by boatbuilder
I am new to this forum and would like to suggest a FASTER patrol boat than the rib. 70-80 knots, shallow draft, trailer.
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-10-16 18:25
by arjan
Lol does the military uses that?
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-10-16 18:41
by Sabre_tooth_tigger
Gigantic wheelbase on that truck, what is it
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-11-09 04:48
by SevenOfDiamonds
Military Photos: New Chinese Naval Base on Hainan
This looks like it could be a good map for patrol boats.
If the idea was still floating around.
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-11-09 04:56
by gclark03
Well, it would be great to see a map with a Chinese carrier invading American territory, and the Army Reserves/Coast Guard defending.
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-11-09 08:50
by Teek
I want a river tributary patrol map.

Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-11-09 16:37
by Sabre_tooth_tigger
Colonelcool125 wrote:All I want is a beach assault where helos and heavilly armed boats speed into the shore with bullets and missiles impacting all around them.
Jabal
Re: The PR Navy: Patrol Boats and Light Ships
Posted: 2008-11-09 18:33
by jbgeezer
Good point Warren, hope the devs listen to this, and act accordingly