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'[R-CON wrote:Z-trooper;886863']What he means is that bf2 (and pretty much all other game engines around) dont like the so called "Ngons" ("N" being a random single digit number equal to or greater than 3), but in the world of computer graphics the term is used when talking about polygons with more sides than 3 (so N > 3).

Anyways... The point being, ALL computer graphics is handeled on a triangle level (all geometry with a surface - so wireframes are excluded from this). To define a surface in 3D all real time gfx systems (games) use the simplest primitive to build surfaces. Triangles. That is also why people should really report their triangle count (its what counts when it comes to performance). A "polygon" is a "many sided face" with all from 3 to infinite sides, so polygon counts are utter useless for limits for games.

Anyway (got a bit carried away there, sorry :roll , your modeling environment might be alright with you having "Ngons" in your mesh (well, actually you dont have, you just cant see the triangles by default - go to edge sub object level and hit "turn", there you can edit and see your triangulation...). When importet into a engine it might cause errors (not bf2, mostly very old engines or simple exporting plugins), or it sets a random triangulation (bf2) of the undefined hard edges you see under the "turn" tool, which can cause smoothing errors or just wierd mesh surfaces.

So when you are 100% done with the model, go through it and connect all verts so its made up of only triangles (probably quickest after UV mapping so it dosnt get cluttered and you forget to map very small or thin triangles)

Sorry for the confusion its not that important yet.

exec_4ever wrote:Just don't stop trying, the first time I've opened up 3dsmax, I had a Brain BSOD. A clanmate of mine teached me the basics, then I started looking for tutorials and learned something. After that, I spend some months "studying" free models, trying to understand how the F* the guy made it and how to apply what I've observed into something useful. Then I spend some weeks in more tutorials and then I started modelling useful things. Due to some memory leaks and a HD failure, I lost a bunch of bookmarks, tuts, models, porn and etc...
After all this ****, I started learning BUGfield2 Editor, but I had a so shitty experience, that I burned it away from my computer and got back to 3ds.

In February or March next, I'll join 3dsmax classes, to learn other technics of modelling, UVing, texturing, rendering, creating materials and other interesting things that free tuts doesn't teach...



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'[R-CON wrote:ice_killer;887230']youre forgetting that games CAN handle polygons (4 sides)

[R-CON]Z-trooper wrote:True, games can handle quads, but they only make them as quads if all verts are in the same plane, or else it cuts an edge at random

ReconAus wrote:looks great, how did you make the stock and the bolt ?

Recon

[R-DEV]Gaz wrote:Looking good exec, but you are aware you're comparing an L115A1 (your model) with an L115A3 (the image on the right)?

Also, I'm sorry to hear about the sad loss of your porn.

Scot wrote:Just PRgasmed. That is sexier than nickbond naked.

Sparky Speirs wrote:nice job exec_4ever!! L115A1 + Schmidt & Bender 5-25x56 + suppressor =