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Posted: 2006-05-25 15:34
by Pence
Japan does not have a military that would undertake an invasion, with America and Britains support or not, its a defence force mainly but does spread to the peacekeeing roles. Ultimatey they would remain neutral incase the Western forces are pushed back, alot of countys would do the same.

In the case of the Europeans, it is possable that they would send forces over in support but there are ways where they could do nothink or even just supply money or/and logistics.

It all depends on the story in the end of the day.

Personaly i would like the SANDF but it is obviously a defence force.

Posted: 2006-05-25 17:20
by tophdawg
Malik wrote:Has anyone else noticed the similarities between Battlefield 2 and Command and Conquer: Generals? It seems EA decided to completely use the same ideas in both games.
wow i just noticed that when you pointed that out man EA is dence. The only fun part of bf is usally the mods.

Posted: 2006-05-25 17:51
by Bob_Marley
Pence wrote:Japan does not have a military that would undertake an invasion, with America and Britains support or not, its a defence force mainly but does spread to the peacekeeing roles. Ultimatey they would remain neutral incase the Western forces are pushed back, alot of countys would do the same.

In the case of the Europeans, it is possable that they would send forces over in support but there are ways where they could do nothink or even just supply money or/and logistics.

It all depends on the story in the end of the day.

Personaly i would like the SANDF but it is obviously a defence force.
You do know the "defence force" status of the Japanese armed forces is not entirely true - the yanks quite happily dragged them into the Iraq war.

And if we're going to have a JDF force at any time in the future, it damn well better be the Jamaican Defece Force!

Posted: 2006-05-25 17:55
by the.ultimate.maverick
Bob - the Japanese went into Iraq after the war ended. It is now a peacekeeping/nation building operation. The two are distinctly different. Also there are only 80 Jap Troops there.

Posted: 2006-05-25 18:03
by tophdawg
japeneese suck there army sucks how could they posiblaly help usmc.

Posted: 2006-05-25 18:09
by the.ultimate.maverick
The Japanese are a good logistical fighting force...you served with them?

Posted: 2006-05-25 19:56
by [T]Terranova7
Pence wrote:Japan does not have a military that would undertake an invasion, with America and Britains support or not, its a defence force mainly but does spread to the peacekeeing roles. Ultimatey they would remain neutral incase the Western forces are pushed back, alot of countys would do the same.

In the case of the Europeans, it is possable that they would send forces over in support but there are ways where they could do nothink or even just supply money or/and logistics.

It all depends on the story in the end of the day.

Personaly i would like the SANDF but it is obviously a defence force.
Your not getting the point. Japan would be the invaded not the invaders. Hence the word, defence force? The USMC has an entire division stationed in Japan. And if you have not noticed, its the USMC v.s China. So yes, regardless if Japan wanted to go to war or not, China ain't going to leave em alone.

Posted: 2006-05-25 22:20
by solipsism
CANADA !

Posted: 2006-05-25 22:35
by six7
d00d I iz Catholic! @dd T3h Vatican!

~I'm actually not Catholic. :|

Posted: 2006-05-25 22:47
by Pence
Bob_Marley wrote:You do know the "defence force" status of the Japanese armed forces is not entirely true - the yanks quite happily dragged them into the Iraq war.
If you read what i have posted then you will see that i said:
its a defence force mainly but does spread to the peacekeeing roles.
And Terranova, In defence of the Dev team, the Jap's may just none-violently kick the Americans out in a bid to remain neuteral.

Posted: 2006-05-25 23:27
by [T]Terranova7
Oh brother. Look this was an official quote from a dev regarding the sides.
'[R-DEV wrote:Evilhomer']The issue is that POE are doign Russia, and we think it would be rude to try and cover a scenario which other mods are working towards.

So we have come up with a list of possible countries.

MEC
Iran
Pakistan (overthrown goverment)
Syria
Egypt
UAE*
Oman

East Asia
China PLA
north Korea

Us lead Coalition
USA
UK
Canada
Australia
Philipines
Taiwan
Japan
Israel
South Korea
Afghanistan
That was found on this thread way back in March.
http://realitymod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4695

Posted: 2006-05-26 02:50
by Figisaacnewton
I just want to say that, Terranova, you know what you are talking about.
Terranova wrote:Sides worth noting are Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, North Korea and Israel. Those are the main forces that are a must involved in the war. Taiwan, Japan and South Korea all feature U.S presence and support. Obviously China isn't just going to ignore the 3rd USMC Division stationed in Okinawa Japan and head straight for Wake Island.
An okinawa map would be awesome, i always wanted one for FH. Maybe a preemptive US strike into china?
Terranova wrote: The korean war is technially still not over, so why wouldn't North Korea team up with China in taking down South Korea?
I think that is very likely, though some will say they have too much tension themselves (china nk) I think China would have to be a little crazy to ally with NK... but they might end up fighting together. i dunno, ask tom clancy.
Terranova wrote: Israel is just a middle-east target. Middle-East peoples would go on a crusade to retake the holy city of Jerusalem (Map idea anyone?).
very very sweet idea. I tottaly want a map in megiddo valley! holy shit would that be sweet. That would litteraly be the battle of armageddon, you could have a red tinted sky and everything, man that would be awesome. Also, a battle in the streets of jerulsalem would be awesome too, the wailing wall and the dome of the rock.
Terranova wrote: The Philipines could get involved too. I've been readin up on some communist problems they have been having in the south. Perhaps China comes down to take over the seris of islands and restructure the government with communism. Makes for some nice pacific theatre maps too.
in addition to that, the philipense are also very muslim and currently have active al qaeda and other islamic terrorist cells. could be mec or china here.
Terranova wrote: I don't know about Russia though. They just seem too poor to get involved on a large scale. Perhaps they use their special operations and intelligence to protect their own interests or something. Yet they may deny any military intervention with the conflict.
i say maybe just one map or something, where some allied nation is trying to destroy a convoy of russian supllies going to MEC/China. Sort of like cambodia in the vietnam war, and sort of like VIP mode, except the russians have a huge sereis of trucks and the US is trying to stop them.
Terranova wrote: Another thing we might want to consider. There could be some western alliance or something. If the U.K and U.S are involved, why wouldn't the French, Polish and other European nations not. I'm pretty sure European countries do have some oil interests in the middle-east.
France, military? har har har. ok, seriously, germany and poland maybe, they actually have... you know... legitimate standing armies, specifically germany. but for the love of god don't do a euro force thing. and actually, germany probly wont work too well cuz POE is doing germany and us vs ... chechnya or uzbekiztan or somethign.

Posted: 2006-05-26 04:47
by Zepheris Casull
in addition to that, the philipense are also very muslim and currently have active al qaeda and other islamic terrorist cells. could be mec or china here.
ROFL, ouch ouch... gawd i haven't laughed so hard in a long time. Here's a hint, their muslim population amounts to 5% of their populace, get the idea?

and the french do have a legitimate standing armies, are u suggesting something else?

Posted: 2006-05-26 11:04
by Pence
Zepheris Casull wrote: and the french do have a legitimate standing armies, are u suggesting something else?
They will just retreat and blame it on the BEF ;) .

Lets just start the story with france being attacked from the south and they singe the surrender in Compiegne in that railway carriage.

Posted: 2006-05-26 19:55
by [T]Terranova7
Figisaacnewton wrote:France, military? har har har. ok, seriously, germany and poland maybe, they actually have... you know... legitimate standing armies, specifically germany. but for the love of god don't do a euro force thing. and actually, germany probly wont work too well cuz POE is doing germany and us vs ... chechnya or uzbekiztan or somethign.
I don't why everyone seems to bash France all the time. I mean if its about their quick defeat back in WW2, I'm willing to bet that if the U.S or U.K were in the exact same position (In terms of territory) they would fall just as quick as them. Although thats a whole different discussion. France has some pretty nice equipment, like the Leclerc MBT.

If anything I would support a country like Italy for a side inclusion. Lets say the MEC sweeps through northern Africa, and a southern Europe incursion by MEC military focres becomes a possiblity. Italy makes for a nice target due to their position on the map. Not only do the Italians make good pizza and bread, they have some pretty nice equipment as well.

Posted: 2006-05-26 19:58
by the.ultimate.maverick
Quoting Blackadder:

We hate the French! We fight wars against the French! Did all those men die in vain on the fields of Agincourt? Was the man who burned Joan of Arc just wasting good matches?

Posted: 2006-05-26 20:01
by Malik
Terranova wrote:Not only do the Italians make good pizze and bread, they have some pretty nice equipment as well.
Such as shotguns and handguns. ;)

Posted: 2006-05-26 20:14
by [T]Terranova7
Yea. I was thinking the Italians could use their fine wine to seduce the MEC and Chinese armies into a peaceful resolution. No seriously though, some equipment worth mentioning.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/ariete/
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/agusta/
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/puma/
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/centauro/
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/a109m/

Posted: 2006-05-26 20:20
by Malik
All their men could be armed with Benelli shotguns and Beretta handguns too. :D

Posted: 2006-05-26 21:52
by Pence
Terranova wrote: If anything I would support a country like Italy for a side inclusion. Lets say the MEC sweeps through northern Africa, and a southern Europe incursion by MEC military focres becomes a possiblity. Italy makes for a nice target due to their position on the map.
Gibraltar?
The MEC are already in North Africa, Morocco for exsample is part of the middle east, it goes thorough most of northern/mid Africa.
Not only do the Italians make good pizza and bread, they have some pretty nice equipment as well.
One thing i cant stand about Britain is that there are no Nando's or Wimpy Burger's its all McDonalds and Burger Queen of spit!