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Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-04-20 15:09
by {UK}Suzeran
i want this faction badder than any other we need to get PR into africa

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-04-20 22:30
by Anhkhoa
'[R-CON wrote:162eRI;997973']

Yes, last week I've checked which country is unsing the Fal and the G3. That's why it's hard to take a decision.
To answer you, the OGG is an coalition army who takes place around the Gulf of Guinea (Western Central Africa). To be more precise, it's borders could be Congo to Nigeria and Centr. Afr. Rep.
I put G3 because it was looking modern and it's prefered my many different African countries. The FAL is not outdated, but less and less countries use it. Thought, it's not up to me and we can switch the G3 for the Fal. But the G3 is already made when the Fal is just a WIP.

FAL ftw. "More Modern" That means its more expensive. And if you truly support what you will say in the post about poor equipment, you will pick the FN Fal. So FN FAL NAOW OR I KILL YOU =D
Now watch Tirak give me an infraction...


Well, my bad, as getting this faction is quiet hard because it's an unrealistic faction.
Also, you did the job and give a really decent backed up informations! That's why I posted all of this to see you reactions, if I make something wrong or not realistic and what you think.
Thank you ;)

The MEC are unrealistic yet they are still in PR. Whose to say that South Africa and France didn't teamed up to eliminate the threat supported by China in WW3 and under such threat North/West Africa made a coalition

Well, yes it is! It's just you have to see it like an African conventional army. It's different from our Occidental conventional armies!!!
No scopes and poor equipment don't mean you can't be organize and can't be a conventional force! And it don't mean you can't kill ennemies...
But like I said, we can put Chinese scope kits on the ground to pick up. Because we forget that PR is WW3 and we all know that China already started to send more and more equipment to Africa. So what could happen if it was really a new world war?!

Poor but supported by China. If they were that worthless China wouldn't be helping them in the 1'st place. They would concentrate on there own war machine to combat the US and GB. And why can't we just say, for the fun of it and in the long run, the GGOF formed a command structure much like the USSR except better thought out.

Thank you for your help!
I started to get an headache reading and looking at hundreds of pictures LOL (yes, there is a huge thread on Military Photos about the African armies) and don't know what to do anymore. One day I'm sure it will be like this, the second day I find something different LOL and so on...
Thank You =D
Too sum it up...
FN Fal > G3 Both economicly and fun factor
The GGOF shouldn't SO poor as China is helping them.

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-05-21 14:40
by Hauteclocque
Anhkhoa wrote:I was bored so I drew this up for you guys.
Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces Design Plan
Go back to this topic :
First, thanks you very much for your work Anhkhoa.
Unfortunately, I have already made a design plan for the faction, but your work on the geometries from EoD will be very useful.
Some changes from your spreadsheet :
-Using the Rebel geometries for the pilot : African countries often hire mercenaries from Eastern Europe. These were Bulgarian pilots who killed French soldiers in Ivory Coast with Mi-24 Hind.
-Replacing GLTD (what you call green binoculars) by standard binoculars, I don't think that they could have such a modern equipment even if they are supported by China.

NB : Never forget that we are really busy with French Forces and making the GGOF doesn't mean for us to spend too much time.

In a first time, we will pick the weapons already done in PR, then maybe we could make our own models.
So, I don't think that chosing the FN MAG is a good idea, unless ADF Forces plan to make it, but according to their desgn plan, they will use MINIMI as LMG. I think we'd better take the PKM or the RPK 74.
It's the same case with the PSG1 which is not used in Western Africa and also for the Springfield. I know that these countries use old weapons but not the Springfield.

Here is the design plan I've made, it needs some fixes :
OGG Forces Design Plan

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-05-21 20:50
by single.shot (nor)
The Type 56, is the v0.8 AK... ie impossible to hit with (due to lame vBF2-made sights, not shooting in general) and is Chinese... i suggest changing it to the G3... or the PR AKM w/o the bayonette or converted into AK-47 (other reciever) or the FAL / FAL para
you are going to give the a SUIT sight, or if not, what?

to represent Chinese support, u can have the Chinese Hand Grenade, instead of the WW2 one.


The Medic can have a Folding-stock FAL....


i made a spreadsheet

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-05-23 13:58
by Anhkhoa
Your the boss..
Its your mod, you can use that if you want.
I just want FALs so bad.

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-05-23 14:02
by Hauteclocque
We are the bosses but we can't be not realistic *seeing the mod title* 8)
Don't worry we will use the FAL, but we need an answer from exec_4_ever who has already done this model and also the Colt pistol.

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-05-23 17:02
by single.shot (nor)
haute, do you think a FAL para model would suit the style of the OGG? if so, as EXEC to make one, as the only difference is a folding stock and shorter muzzle, you can use it for carbine-demanding classes such as engineer, H-AT or crewmen

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-05-23 17:06
by Hauteclocque
I think it's a good alternative. But I still think the crewman must have a shorter gun like MP5 or even uzi.

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-05-23 17:14
by single.shot (nor)
a crewman should perhaps get a Colt 1911, for variety (also its an awesomely cool gun)

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-05-23 17:15
by Hauteclocque
By the way, your link to the spreadsheet doesn't work.
you have to publish the spreadsheet and give us the public link if you want to show it. :wink:

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-05-23 17:21
by single.shot (nor)
oh, here it is fixed link!

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-05-23 18:30
by WilsonPL
replace mi24 with MI8 with rocekt pods..
more variety and easier to do

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-07-12 15:36
by Panzerfire
'[R-COM wrote:162eRI;1082239']
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Malcom X?

I swear that player model looks almost identical to him :mrgreen: Must be the glasses :razz:

Looking cool.

I know it's still WIP but watch that last pic... Crewman has the US Army 1st Calvary Divison patch. ;) Make sure to get rid of it.

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-07-12 15:38
by Tonnie
coz 1 is just never enough....

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-07-12 15:43
by WilsonPL
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Reskin this part to black so it would look like a regular boot.
You should replace someof the glasses with the ones you can see in my signature :P


* And i beg you, dont use this supply truck ! [Reskinned US one] use something else

Even this one is better (reskin, add canvas on the back)
http://idf.blacksandstudio.com/images/m ... /15_12.jpg -> [mod part of usi]

And its used in Africa:
WarWheels.Net-  M325 Commandcar Nun-Nun Patrol Vehicle/Weapons Carrier Index
Military-Vehicles: M325 Command Car?


Also i noticed that you used African Union logo in you OGG emblem:
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File:Logo of the African Union.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
im not sure if its ok.


Anyway good work on both factions, !

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-07-12 15:59
by Anhkhoa
i can haz see FAL pl0x?


Ontopic

When you do the reskins, be sure to get the helmets because those are now Vietnam Era helmets and the ones in the pics of the OP are WW2 Era and don't have camo.

Also, would it possible for you guys to redo the face? Perhaps a bit darker and with no beard?
The beard makes him look like a Westerner...

Image

Re: [Faction] Guinean Gulf Organisation Forces

Posted: 2009-07-12 18:11
by WilsonPL
what about this one: http://idf.blacksandstudio.com/images/m ... /15_12.jpg

it needs good texture ..