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Re: New British Kit Geometories

Posted: 2010-03-18 13:46
by EddieRizla
Isnt that player model the US heavy one?
Why not use the PR British player models or do they need to be redone too?
Yeah not trying to sound horrible or anything just asking. Keep up the good work new kit geometry is always welcome since the player models are rarely made from scratch because the face rigging.
Lets hope your done in time for Sangin.
Oh yeah and that greenish blue dyed camo kinda reminds me of the new NLAW.
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Re: New British Kit Geometories

Posted: 2010-03-18 14:26
by Squaddie09
there are two reasons why i decided to use the us player model...

1. The British player models create a terrible pulling effect to the vertex along the back when animated and also in other areas. Another reason is that the brit player models are scaled wrongly, so when you steal a brit kit as an insurgent you often find your head poking out of the helmet etc..

2. The british now use a new version of ospry and this looks alot more like the us player models body rather than the brits..

anyway another screeny, with the new osprey ;)

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Re: New British Kit Geometories

Posted: 2010-03-18 15:48
by Rudd
I want your babies, great work mate.

Re: New British Kit Geometories

Posted: 2010-03-18 16:01
by H.sta
Hurry and finish the models, becouse when you get your R-CON tags us non tagged can't see your work :D

It is excellent work you have done on these models, especially seeing as you have made your own textures, and done this in a short time period aswell

In my opinion you should be getting those R-CON tags soon.

Re: New British Kit Geometories

Posted: 2010-03-18 16:11
by EddieRizla
Yeah i was getting kinda sick of seeing Taliban and insurgents running around with helmets that didnt fit correctly or Brits heads sticking through the Tali head wraps. :wink:

Very nice work, thank you so much for making new player models and kit geoms, dare i say it i was more excited about your work, than the new US Army kit geoms when i saw it. :-D
You deserve R-Con status for this. Keep working your magic.

Re: New British Kit Geometories

Posted: 2010-03-18 17:27
by Gaz
Squaddie09 wrote:there are two reasons why i decided to use the us player model...

1. The British player models create a terrible pulling effect to the vertex along the back when animated and also in other areas. Another reason is that the brit player models are scaled wrongly, so when you steal a brit kit as an insurgent you often find your head poking out of the helmet etc..

2. The british now use a new version of ospry and this looks alot more like the us player models body rather than the brits..

anyway another screeny, with the new osprey ;)

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Good choice.

The PR Team went firm on the decision to redo the kit geoms instead of creating new player models a while back. It's a requirement for all COMFACs as well.

Come October we will be deploying with MTP. Big ask, but would it be possible to do a MTP version of the camo clothing as well? For the next year or two, the Osprey and PLCE will stay in DPM/Desert anyway, so just the clothing really.

Looking excellent ;)

Re: New British Kit Geometories

Posted: 2010-03-18 17:37
by Z-trooper
@ Gaz

Pride has already done the soldier textures for the brits, including MTP.

Re: New British Kit Geometories

Posted: 2010-03-18 18:02
by EddieRizla
The EoD soldier models, they are vBf2 models but somehow they managed to edit them, how did they do that? I thought all Bf2 stuff was protected from editing? The FARC soldier models are from EoD.

Re: New British Kit Geometories

Posted: 2010-03-18 18:25
by lucidrians
Squaddie09 wrote:thats an awesome picture hardcandy, Thank you! Will help alot as its been really hard to find some decent reference pics for the mine detector :/

And btw... What the hell camo is that??? I never seen that before
Not sure, the pic is from a Micheal Yon article, which can be found here, there are plenty of reference pictures in this article and you can find a few more like it on his website. They all containt high quality reference pics of British soldiers.

These ones below:
Death in the Corn: Part I
Death in the Corn: Part II
Death in the Corn: Part III
Resurrection
Night Into Day
An Artery of Opium a Vein of Taliban

Re: New British Kit Geometories

Posted: 2010-03-18 18:52
by Hauteclocque
EddieRizla wrote:The EoD soldier models, they are vBf2 models but somehow they managed to edit them, how did they do that? I thought all Bf2 stuff was protected from editing? The FARC soldier models are from EoD.
Are you sure of this ?...

Good work Squaddie, your texturing skills are really impressive... :) (the models are good too hehe)

Re: New British Kit Geometories

Posted: 2010-03-18 19:51
by EddieRizla
[R-COM]Hauteclocque wrote:Are you sure of this ?...

Good work Squaddie, your texturing skills are really impressive... :) (the models are good too hehe)
Yeah my bad i think i was wrong after looking into it further, I thought that this Eod face:
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Was this Bf2 EU face edited
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But i forgot what the 2nd EU face looked like:
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So i made a mistake, :shock: but i swear some of the EoD VC faces are slightly slimmer than the chinese faces. See here..
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ARVN Face
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I belive this guy is new too.
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Im gonna jump in game to EoD to see if these faces work with the facial animations.

And how to they get a head onto a body i mean like if i wanted to put a Chinese head onto a Civilian body how would that be done? Can it be done in the .tweak files?

Oh yeah sorry Squaddie for kinda hijacking your thread.

Re: New British Kit Geometories

Posted: 2010-03-19 02:03
by Mongolian_dude
I've always thought it would be a nice touch to give soldiers in Desert camo a slight tan ;)

...mongol...

Re: New British Kit Geometories

Posted: 2010-03-19 17:50
by Squaddie09
[R-DEV]Gaz wrote:Good choice.

The PR Team went firm on the decision to redo the kit geoms instead of creating new player models a while back. It's a requirement for all COMFACs as well.

Come October we will be deploying with MTP. Big ask, but would it be possible to do a MTP version of the camo clothing as well? For the next year or two, the Osprey and PLCE will stay in DPM/Desert anyway, so just the clothing really.

Looking excellent ;)
Well i know that pride has created an mtp variation of these models, however from the looks of things his textures are still using the old osprey armour? So if possible I may get in touch with him and see if we can collaborate on using my new osprey variation?

And thank you soo much for the support guys! Im so glad that people appreciate my work!!! Its a great feeling :D esspecially being told that i deserve R-con tags!

Im currently in the stages of just creating the actual kit layouts themselves now and soon that should be all the hark work almost done. I must say a big thank you however to readmenace who has been helping guide me along the way and for supplying me with us player model ;)

Thank you again

Re: New British Kit Geometories

Posted: 2010-03-19 17:56
by ReadMenace
Wait.... modelling & textures the hard part?
Quake in fear of weighting the componants. ;)

-REad

Re: [Model] New British Kit Geometories [WIP]

Posted: 2010-04-01 22:21
by HangMan_
Squaddie can you PM me with an update on the soldier textures please mate, cheers.

Re: [Model] New British Kit Geometories [WIP]

Posted: 2010-04-14 20:20
by Rudd
apart from being a cool picture showing off ACOGs on L86s, and one of the new SA80s, this picture might give you a nice view of the helmet :)

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/B6787472 ... 026075.jpg


its from this MoD report, regarding final in theatre training for the 4th Mechanized Brigade
Ministry of Defence | Defence News | Training and Adventure | Soldiers arriving in Helmand undertake final preparations

Re: [Model] New British Kit Geometories [WIP]

Posted: 2010-04-23 13:01
by Rudd
thought this picture gave a good view of the kit currently being deployed

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ah ****, just noticed I had a post I could have edited, my bad

Re: [Model] New British Kit Geometories [WIP]

Posted: 2010-06-01 05:15
by HangMan_
*Bump*

Any updates on this squaddie? Please send me a pm regarding the NZDF textures.

Re: [Model] New British Kit Geometories [WIP]

Posted: 2010-06-05 23:22
by Svernare
They should make the British more of a sea nation in pr because that is sort of their main thing in real life