[Faction Proposal] Islamic Republic of Iran Army [Again]

[Insanitypays]

I can assist with texture work. I've already done an Iranian looking skin in the past, and I have an extensive camouflage library with quite a few exact replicas of Iranian patterns- MEC Heavy Soldier WIP image - InsanityPays - Mod DB
I've gotten a lot better with my textures since then.
If you'd like my help, don't bother contacting me on here- email is [email protected]

[Zemciugas]

I think renaming Mec to Iran would be the best way as well, don't necessarily need to have them accurate, could slowly include the stuff they use with each update. It would definitely open a lot of possibilities for new opfor factions and even maps, because now they are always brushed off with mec being the generic all in one middle eastern faction. And it's getting booring always playing the mec when coming up against any other blufor in a desert map.

[Rhino]

A simple "MEC to Iran" rename isn't an option without scrapping much of our MEC content. Not to mention a lot of Iran's kit and other stuff is missing/not done yet.

I'm personally all for splitting the MEC up into sub factions like Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Syria, Jordan etc etc, (some examples might not be good ones) so we keep all the MEC kit, + adding new stuff across different factions, but this is in itself, a hell of a lot of work especially when filling in all the unique gaps for each faction. This is also not to mention that mappers have a much smaller pool of assets to play with when setting up maps if done like this, although will make the MEC maps a lot more unique, but the more factions we have, the fewer each one will feature per MEC map, at least not without making more.

The better, short term plan would be to simply keep MEC more or less as it is for now, and add Iran as a new faction on top (which tbh since Iran uses a lot of old western kit, it would be quite a unique faction from the MEC too), once that's done we can then look into adding another major ME faction on top, until we get to the point that all/most of the normal MEC kit is being used, meaning we can ditch it.

But first someone needs to fill in all the gaps to making Iran and also getting the work done behind it which in itself, is no easy task and will take strong leadership with the right skillets and work behind it to achieve. This is something that is right now, simply up to the community to make happen as we (the devs) have enough on our plate at the moment but we can offer help where needed

[Kerryburgerking]

So people is seriously suggesting that MEC is getting scrapped i nfavour for Iran? Why would Iran invade Oman(Muttrah), Jordan(Jabal AL Burj) and Syria(Iron Eagle, atleast i think it's' in Syria)? And they don't' have that capability.

[rodrigoma]

So people is seriously suggesting that MEC is getting scrapped i nfavour for Iran? Why would Iran invade Oman(Muttrah), Jordan(Jabal AL Burj) and Syria(Iron Eagle, atleast i think it's' in Syria)? And they don't' have that capability.

lol, why would a fictional faction invade those countries anyways?

[Kerryburgerking]

rodrigoma;1887256']lol, why would a fictional faction invade those countries anyways?

Well since they are all arab countries it kinda make sense that arabs are defending them against USA and Israel rather than Iran would step in and do the job.

[BroCop]

Erm, who is say they are invading? If MEC is a fictional coalition of various ME states, then clearly they are the ones being invaded not the other way around.

[simeon5541]

If there would be any split of MEC,
I think that there would not be any need of more than two factions,
first would be,well,a MEC but consisting of Arabic nations,so most of assets
and its flexibility would remain similar to current MEC,maybe name change
something I suggested long time ago,like "Military Of Arab League",or "Arab Coalition",
and other faction would be Islamic Republic of Iran Army.

[waldov]

A simple "MEC to Iran" rename isn't an option without scrapping much of our MEC content. Not to mention a lot of Iran's kit and other stuff is missing/not done yet.

I'm personally all for splitting the MEC up into sub factions like Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Syria, Jordan etc etc, (some examples might not be good ones) so we keep all the MEC kit, + adding new stuff across different factions, but this is in itself, a hell of a lot of work especially when filling in all the unique gaps for each faction. This is also not to mention that mappers have a much smaller pool of assets to play with when setting up maps if done like this, although will make the MEC maps a lot more unique, but the more factions we have, the fewer each one will feature per MEC map, at least not without making more.

The better, short term plan would be to simply keep MEC more or less as it is for now, and add Iran as a new faction on top (which tbh since Iran uses a lot of old western kit, it would be quite a unique faction from the MEC too), once that's done we can then look into adding another major ME faction on top, until we get to the point that all/most of the normal MEC kit is being used, meaning we can ditch it.

But first someone needs to fill in all the gaps to making Iran and also getting the work done behind it which in itself, is no easy task and will take strong leadership with the right skillets and work behind it to achieve. This is something that is right now, simply up to the community to make happen as we (the devs) have enough on our plate at the moment but we can offer help where needed

Nicely put I think from that stand point the Syrian Uprising mini mod/add on is probably a more worthwhile venture at this stage for any one willing to work on a community faction that isnt Blufor.

[ElshanF]

Do the Iran Iraq war by splitting MEC ?

[Rhino]

Do the Iran Iraq war by splitting MEC ?

If you where trying to do an historical conflict then you would need to do it by the book, ie, histrionically actuate weapons/vehicles/assets and ideally, maps based on historical battles/locations too but you could do an Iran vs MEC map with modern weapons on random maps without calling it the Iran Iraq war too which would be somewhat easier.

[Mongolian_dude]

The MEC is a convenient faction for PR, while the IRIA would be considerably less so. To Implement the IRIA would probably mean we would have to the redesign the MEC also to make them two distinct factions, like change their standard issue weapon from the G3 to something else (with all the variations).

You've got to remember that Islamic countries in the Middle East hate each other's guts too. Many of the current conflicts that have been in the news in recent times can be viewed as the culmination of years of friction between Suni and Shia powers in the region. To have Iran and Saudi Arabia as allies, despite both being Islamic Middle-Eastern countries, is unimaginable. The beauty of the MEC is that it is unspecified and makes them flexible.

If we separated them, we would have to assume these two large military forces that occupy the same region are naturally competing for control and influence. Then it's pretty likely that one of them is going to be strategically allied with BLUFOR/NATO against the other, but they are both inherent opponents to BLUFOR and are both OPFOR... Faction-based mind screw!

It cant really work.


...mongol...

[Insanitypays]

Granted, the Iran Iraq war is a very interesting conflict...

If I wanted to see one historically recreated war in PR, I would want to see the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan from 79-89. It's fascinating to see a change like that in the Soviet's military doctrine- normally they're quite stand offish when it comes to foreign conflicts unless they're actually pushed. It didn't contrast so much when compared to the US, we kind of throw our military might around to fuel our military industrial complex, so we're a lot more global. It seemed like the USSR was starting to feel a bit threatened by US economic prosperity, and wanted to invigorate their own war industry.

I think it would be a lot easier to do, because most of the assets are already here, and all they would need are some tactful reskins. Only thing missing is a mapper to do some north Afghan terrain.

This is fun to talk about regardless of whether or not it will ever come to fruition.

[Rhino]

If I wanted to see one historically recreated war in PR, I would want to see the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan from 79-89.

If you want it, make it

I agree it would be a really interesting conflict to have in PR, problem is we simply don't have the man power / time to make it so its up to someone else to make it happen if they want to see it

AFAIK most of the stuff needed is already part of PR or can be got hold of, don't think there would be that many gaps you would need to fill in from scratch, and even some of our current Afghan maps like Op Archer could be used, its just a matter of putting the work in to make it all come together

[Kerryburgerking]

If you want it, make it

I agree it would be a really interesting conflict to have in PR, problem is we simply don't have the man power / time to make it so its up to someone else to make it happen if they want to see it

AFAIK most of the stuff needed is already part of PR or can be got hold of, don't think there would be that many gaps you would need to fill in from scratch, and even some of our current Afghan maps like Op Archer could be used, its just a matter of putting the work in to make it all come together

How about the AKM and T-55, those arent ingame or am i misonformed?

[Mineral]

both are not ingame. I am trying to get them both into my syrian faction. The T55 is the closest to being ready. Just need lods. The AKM model is also ready, just needs finishing and all the other stuff.

[Rhino]

USI Has a T-55 you know and I'm sure if we asked for it they would let use use it?:


AKM, use current AK as place holder?

[Mineral]

we are using that t55 after we got the permission for it. It's just missing lod's and proper coding as USI never got it ingame I believe, it was still WIP for them.

and yeah, current ak's are placeholders. But AKM is really something I would like to get done and ingame

[waldov]

Granted, the Iran Iraq war is a very interesting conflict...

If I wanted to see one historically recreated war in PR, I would want to see the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan from 79-89. It's fascinating to see a change like that in the Soviet's military doctrine- normally they're quite stand offish when it comes to foreign conflicts unless they're actually pushed. It didn't contrast so much when compared to the US, we kind of throw our military might around to fuel our military industrial complex, so we're a lot more global. It seemed like the USSR was starting to feel a bit threatened by US economic prosperity, and wanted to invigorate their own war industry.

I think it would be a lot easier to do, because most of the assets are already here, and all they would need are some tactful reskins. Only thing missing is a mapper to do some north Afghan terrain.

This is fun to talk about regardless of whether or not it will ever come to fruition.

Yeah a Soviet invasion of Afghanistan mini mod would be awesome. As Rhino said all the stuff is already there even the maps. Kokan 1985 would be pretty cool. I can imagine the Hinds flying low to avoid the stingers. I might try and think of a Mujaheddin design plan if i can get around to it. Mostly it will just be giving the Taliban different guns and some Gaz instead of pickups.

[fabioxxxx]

Yeah don't think MEC should be removed either, But i do think we could have more opfor factions for the middle east . most of new factions are blufor and from europe ... could start small , infantry mode with light vehicles ... against insurgency even, so assets wouldn't be a problem.
Iran, Turkey, Pakistan or Egypt any of then would be awesome .

this should the pr moto "PR always more ! never less !"

hahaha