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Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-21 19:26
by Z-trooper
John-117 wrote:Is it true that the PR developers must have a hooker and drug dealer on speed dial?
No comments. I am under a non disclosure agreement. 8-)

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-21 20:50
by Fess|3-5|
OGT, Mestia, and Ejod when it had 2 tanks vs 2 tanks (instead of stupid 1 TOW vs MEC Armor)
Old rally system
.8


Honestly I think Z-Trooper put it best. PR used to be a great balance of gameplay and realism, but in recent releases it seems like it is trying too hard to be a simulation on the BF2 engine, which it just can't be. I look forward to ARMA2 :P R, because I know that that game can handle what the DEV's seem to want PR to be. As for BF2 :P R, it was more fun as a tactical shooter, than a spam shooter (BF2:Vanilla) or a semi-simulation (recent iterations).

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-21 20:52
by Nugiman
Elektro wrote:Planes on insurgency
Dito!
I remember Al Basrah when it had an A10...so awesome!

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-21 21:02
by Shepard
I miss the LB Trans too =(

I want the ability to use other teams kits back, adds much more value to a kit if ur enemy can steal it and use it against you, realistic

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-21 21:04
by Johncro
I miss the old rally system, and the old Falujah West where the main bases were swaped....so much fun as iNS

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-21 21:38
by sovietpolarbear
I want the UAV back I miss the little ******* it helped my team a lot! :(

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-21 23:21
by jerkzilla
I miss Mestia a lot. I think it's a bit weird that it was taken out, considering Asad Khal is pretty much the same size and plays nearly the same.
The Vodnik was also awesome, had lots of fun taking down helis on Zatar, which was a great map, as most vanilla maps have great visual quality.

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-21 23:30
by Snowman
Just needs to be rolled back to .8

Someone atleast needs to take the devation out of .8 and put it in the new junky *** release.







Snowman out

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-22 02:23
by Total_Overkill
I want to be able to use all enemy kits again... -_-
Player as a soldier that has so much trouble with a bipod mounted Ak47 that he shoots himself in the head after 10seconds of fumbling is just disgusting

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-22 05:50
by boilerrat
I loved taking enemy kits, that was always fun.

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-22 07:18
by Redamare
the ability to use enemy specialty kits . . . . its annoying why shouldnt i beable to use the enemy kit ???

The old GBR armored transport truck that used to be on ghost train :) . . i think that specdefensecontractors are going to use it which is nice .

and . . . . i think thats it mostly

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-22 07:27
by QUINT
I can't believe I only saw 2 people that said the EXTRACTION game mode.

Then again, I remember it from only the first few versions...so many people simply do not know about it.

Extraction was where you had to extract a VIP, from an area, in a black SUV, along a road with checkpoints.
Some maps didn't work so well, while others it was a lot of fun! There were no real instructions either, so may people that came in, didn't know how to play, and would screw it up, or just leave.
I still think that game mode, has a TON of potential!!!!


So I say you bring back:
EXTRACTION!!!


Thanks!

~Q~

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-22 08:04
by Truism
QUINT wrote:I can't believe I only saw 2 people that said the EXTRACTION game mode.

Then again, I remember it from only the first few versions...so many people simply do not know about it.

Extraction was where you had to extract a VIP, from an area, in a black SUV, along a road with checkpoints.
Some maps didn't work so well, while others it was a lot of fun! There were no real instructions either, so may people that came in, didn't know how to play, and would screw it up, or just leave.
I still think that game mode, has a TON of potential!!!!


So I say you bring back:
EXTRACTION!!!


Thanks!

~Q~
There aren't many of the early players still around. Surely you've seen the ragequit threads over the years...

I want to see Counter-Attack mode back in on maps that work for it... Like Zatar...

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-22 16:26
by Rico11b
OMG!!!

Seriously, someone asked "what would you like to see back in PR".

Well, First and foremost I'd like to see "REALITY" put back in PR. I mean after all it is part of the mods name. But that would take someone with "real" knowledge instead of relying on Wikipedia. It seems that the mod is getting less "real" with every release. If you do have "advisers", either you aren't listening to them or they don't know what they are talking about. Not sure which one.

Ya know it's funny how a few Devs are "tailoring" the game to suit them instead of making it realistic and letting the game and weapons balance themselves. An example would be that now you can't kill a brit and take his HAT, because one Dev is tired of getting pwned by insurgents. Not being able to use the enemies kits is about as unrealistic as it gets.

Also I'd like to see the SPR return the game. But I guess it's not needed since you can pixel shoot anyone with any rifle in game. Nice "reality" there kido. What ever happened to "tactics" and teamwork to take an objective?

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-22 17:51
by ma21212
PP-19 Bizon was badass, had a very nice sound too.

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-22 18:38
by gazzthompson
Redamare wrote:the ability to use enemy specialty kits . . . . its annoying why shouldnt i beable to use the enemy kit ???
Rico11b wrote:OMG!!!

Seriously, someone asked "what would you like to see back in PR".

Well, First and foremost I'd like to see "REALITY" put back in PR. I mean after all it is part of the mods name. But that would take someone with "real" knowledge instead of relying on Wikipedia. It seems that the mod is getting less "real" with every release. If you do have "advisers", either you aren't listening to them or they don't know what they are talking about. Not sure which one.

Ya know it's funny how a few Devs are "tailoring" the game to suit them instead of making it realistic and letting the game and weapons balance themselves. An example would be that now you can't kill a brit and take his HAT, because one Dev is tired of getting pwned by insurgents. Not being able to use the enemies kits is about as unrealistic as it gets.

Also I'd like to see the SPR return the game. But I guess it's not needed since you can pixel shoot anyone with any rifle in game. Nice "reality" there kido. What ever happened to "tactics" and teamwork to take an objective?
My opinion

Im only assuming here, but im guessing its "all or nothing". As far as i know in BF2 you cant pick up individual weapons from kits, you cant have deviation suddenly made worst because you picked up a weapon your soldier isn't familiar with , and you cant have it so you restrict where people can reload (ie an US HAT at an INS cache).

All of these made the old system ("all") unrealistic. And of course the new system is unrealistic as well, as ideally you could pick up these kits but not reload them at your teams ammo sources and not be proficient in their use, but as far as i know these are not possible to implement .

So both the new and the old system is unrealistic. So it comes down to gameplay, which is best for gameplay ? arguably the new system. Especially on the insurgency where in the old versions after about 30 mins your basically playing another conventional team due to all the pick up kits.

Dev reasoning:

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-p ... ost1462396

I also find it ironic that you say all this stuff about "realism" even though the old system is unrealistic and then you suggest the implementation of a weapon that (as far as i know, please correct me) that is exclusively used by US special operations forces ?

Source:
MK12 Sniper Rifle / Special Purpose Receiver (SPR)
What ever happened to "tactics" and teamwork to take an objective?
Still present.

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-22 18:56
by Eddie Baker
gazzthompson wrote:I also find it ironic that you say all this stuff about "realism" even though the old system is unrealistic and then you suggest the implementation of a weapon that (as far as i know, please correct me) that is exclusively used by US special operations forces ?

Source:
MK12 Sniper Rifle / Special Purpose Receiver (SPR)
The Marines started using the Mk-12 as a line infantry DMR about three years ago in the rifle companies and now also the Light Armored Reconnaissance (LAV) companies; sources vary on whether the DMs are at the company, platoon and/or squad level.

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-22 22:59
by Q2M100
V-22 and Harrier just for fun on a training map.

Re: Things you would like to see back in pr.

Posted: 2010-11-23 00:49
by Target_Practice_117
being able to dig the compound doors closed again. nothing worse than when your cache spawns on a pre raped compound. I feel so insecure :P

And tardless servers.... the PR community is changing for thew worse im afraid.

TEAMPLAY!!!! kill counts don't matter. everyone is out for themselves. So return that damn logistics truck when your done with it!