Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

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A.Filikov
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by A.Filikov »

is it possible to have an approval system?

I mean you can still request any kit you want but you have to wait for an approval from the Squadleader.
Approval selection will be sent to the SL when you request. (something like good old pageup-pagedown or if possible something more advanced)
And in some kits SL has to wait for the cammanders approval.
HAAN4
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by HAAN4 »

I Agree which this suggestion, but some morons will be pissed to take orders.

anyway, PR is,t made to those indisciplined morons.
HAAN4
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by HAAN4 »

A.Filikov wrote:is it possible to have an approval system?

I mean you can still request any kit you want but you have to wait for an approval from the Squadleader.
Approval selection will be sent to the SL when you request. (something like good old pageup-pagedown or if possible something more advanced)
And in some kits SL has to wait for the cammanders approval.
you mean like a message that you may page up or down about the requested kit.

yes this will be amazing.

i would like to get back the request to build fire base, to avoid unnecessary fire base builded.
A.Filikov
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by A.Filikov »

What i mean is something like this:

Consider that i (A.Filikov) joined Wicca's squad and requested a limited kit like grenadier from a supply create.

If that kit is not possible to take at the time, i will automatically get a message like "Unable due to squad limitations" or "All these kits have been issued". So far everything is as it used to be.

If it is possible for me to take that kit i will have a new message like "Kit available, waiting for approval" while my squadleader (in this case Wicca) will receive a message like "A. filikov has requested a grenadier kit. page up - approve / page down - decline"

Then Wicca will act accordingly to the situation and i will get a message like either "Kit request approved, kit has been allocated at your feet." or "Kit request declined"

If it is a kit like sniper; after Wicca approved the request, a similar message will go to the commander.
Mouthpiece
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by Mouthpiece »

A.Filikov wrote:What i mean is something like this:

Consider that i (A.Filikov) joined Wicca's squad and requested a limited kit like grenadier from a supply create.

If that kit is not possible to take at the time, i will automatically get a message like "Unable due to squad limitations" or "All these kits have been issued". So far everything is as it used to be.

If it is possible for me to take that kit i will have a new message like "Kit available, waiting for approval" while my squadleader (in this case Wicca) will receive a message like "A. filikov has requested a grenadier kit. page up - approve / page down - decline"

Then Wicca will act accordingly to the situation and i will get a message like either "Kit request approved, kit has been allocated at your feet." or "Kit request declined"

If it is a kit like sniper; after Wicca approved the request, a similar message will go to the commander.
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... ost1583581

and the answer - https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... ost1583637

Hardcoded.
Pronck
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by Pronck »

This will only work on events...
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badmojo420
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by badmojo420 »

Wicca wrote:Bad. Thats not PR. That is utopia mate. That just never happens. Unless you play with someone forever and ever.

I always play with pubbers, and if i am lucky the occasional guy i know. But mostly random people ive never meet. They feel the wrath of wicca. And usually have alot of fun too. I dont belive in elitism. I think i should take the job to make all players i can get a hold of work as effectivly as possible, without knowing them.
I said the "perfect" squad. My point being that kit distribution is not a big deal in my opinion. It would be a nice addition to the squad leaders powers, but the added hassles that come with it seem to outweigh the good.

But, I'm done here. You seem to want to ignore all the downsides to your suggestion, rather than accept that they actually exist and discuss them.
A.Filikov
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by A.Filikov »

Is it possible to add something on squad management screen?
Like SL selecting the possible kits for his squad from there. And if you try to select a kit which your SL did not allow you, a message like "you are not authorized to use that kit" will appear on your screen.
This too is probably hardcoded though... Urg!!! I hate dice for too many reasons...

Honestly i did not like the idea of SL picking ut the kits for the squad. The squadleader can no longer be able to say "Get a HAT kit and come over here!".
AquaticPenguin
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by AquaticPenguin »

I sort of like the idea for squadleaders, but not with commander designated pilot/crewman kits. I think implementing the commander suggestion on public players would be a bit harsh, and it would dissuade some people from becoming the commander because it would take any fun out of it.
AtlantisThief
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by AtlantisThief »

I'm not totally sure how the idea will affect the gameplay, but i totally agree that there needs some changes in this system. I really hope one of you guys (devs and community) will come up with an awesome solution for this that will make the game even better!
The best opinion was to let the SL have a Page-Up/Page-Down System to let a squad member have a certain kit or not. (Only for the Team-limited Kits.)

EDIT: Okay, it is hardcoded, i got it! :P
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Tartantyco
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by Tartantyco »

AtlantisThief wrote:I'm not totally sure how the idea will affect the gameplay, but i totally agree that there needs some changes in this system. I really hope one of you guys (devs and community) will come up with an awesome solution for this that will make the game even better!
The best opinion was to let the SL have a Page-Up/Page-Down System to let a squad member have a certain kit or not. (Only for the Team-limited Kits.)
For the third or fourth time in this thread: IT'S HARDCODED!

I suggest people actually read the thread before making suggestions in it.
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Mikemonster
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by Mikemonster »

The gist of the suggestion is good, whilst I don't like micromanaging I do like to have a say in what my squad members take.

I'd personally like to have a Page Up or Page Down question for whenever one of my squad requests a kit. Then when my no-mic joins and requests Marksman I know EXACTLY what his game is (or his attitude) and can kick him promptly.

Perhaps this could be extended so that the CO can approve/disprove the Team Kits such as HAT, AA, Snipzor, etc.

I'm not a huge fan of the CO aspects though, because people would go CO just to get kits that their squad badly need, like when you need to request a HAT or something. That feature would be like the current Area Attack CO thing.. I.e. 'we need area attack, someone go CO.'


Good call though, good idea and I would love to see it developed.



Edit: Just read the above post - derp.

Only got to Pg5, sick of all the arguing over small details.
Wicca
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by Wicca »

omg the page up down suggestion is just overtaking my thread :(
Xact Wicca is The Joker. That is all.
AtlantisThief
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by AtlantisThief »

Wicca wrote:omg the page up down suggestion is just overtaking my thread :(
Sorry Wicca and sorry Tartantyco and everyone else, but 8 pages with a lot of text are sometimes simply too much to read :(
A.Filikov
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by A.Filikov »

Wicca wrote:omg the page up down suggestion is just overtaking my thread :(
Haha... Yeah, apart from being hardcoded it is a good idea.

Just edit the first post and say that it is hardcoded mate. 8-)
Biggaayal
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by Biggaayal »

A very original idea (the op). I would like to see some version of his idea for the sniper and h-at perhaps.
Himalde
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by Himalde »

The intention is good, but

I think this will end up with (kit-addicts) starting squad so they can get their marksman / sniper / hat kit, keeping their squad, but not leading it. And it ends up with 3-4 fully functioning squads and 3-6 squads where the SL does not lead the squad at all. It's better that the kit-addicts can get their kit and go away without "leading" squads. No matter what we do, If you really want a kit, you'll get it some way.

If you implement this make crewmen and pilots requestable for all. I'd hate too see people (for example spotters) going back to main so their squad member can get their pilot kit, for the 2nd attack chopper.
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Shovel
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by Shovel »

I don't like this idea, because now every time your squad gets wiped out you would have to go through the whole process again. Most SLs won't want to request guts for their whole squad frequently.

I think this would result in less players wanting to SL and less aircraft or armor squads, which would result in less teamwork.

If this idea was implemented, and since the page up/page down system is hardcoded, this would be impractical. because a SL standing next to a crate spawning a pile of kits and having his squad members pick up the right one is not going to work. I just don't understand how this system would be work in game, especially with the possibility of 128 players.
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killonsight95
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Re: Commander, Squadleader Kit requests

Post by killonsight95 »

how about if it was just for limited team kits, such as H-AT, sniper and AA
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