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Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 18:55
by __Super_6__5__
Prevtzer wrote:I don't exactly see your rules as warnings and they always just pop up all over the screen, I don't have the time to read them.
Anyhow, kicking me for responding to somebody in all-chat with: "me," is just ridicules.
About the SL thing- there was a commander. I gave intel about an enemy tank close to our main, I even typed it into team chat several times. But an AAV still drove straight into it and when 2 HOG members rolled up in a tank they managed to get themselves killed by it, simply because their egos couldn't listen to another SL giving them good info over mumble AND in team chat.
Another situation was when we repeatedly asked the commander to mark a FOB with a TOW, move his UAV over there and give us more intel/ lase it for CAS etc. Instead, he never responded/ marked/ moved the UAV and we got killed because even the CAS wouldn't listen.
Aside from HOG members asking me to cover them with an AAV (which I did gladly, but they only asked because THEY needed ME) there was no teamwork involved at all.
well, thats one side to the story, there are always at least 2 sides to a story. keep in mind it cant be perfect.
Theres an old saying, "nothing ever goes according to plan" and the reason for that is battlefield confusion, communication problems and on and on. there are too many reasons to speculate as to why they didnt respond. i think the same thing when in armor and catch hueys one after another coming down the fence line on muttrah and i wonder how thats possible.
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 18:57
by __Super_6__5__
oh, one more thing, you SHOULD see those rules as your warning, cause they are yours and everyones elses warning.
you can also type !rules to get the asset rules list.
you can also go to
http://www.hogclangaming.com to view our server rules as well.
thanks!
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 19:28
by Prevtzer
__Super_6__5__ wrote:well, thats one side to the story, there are always at least 2 sides to a story. keep in mind it cant be perfect.
Theres an old saying, "nothing ever goes according to plan" and the reason for that is battlefield confusion, communication problems and on and on. there are too many reasons to speculate as to why they didnt respond. i think the same thing when in armor and catch hueys one after another coming down the fence line on muttrah and i wonder how thats possible.
lol yeah, the 2nd side of the story is their egos being too inflated to listen to others. Either that or them being blind and deaf.
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 20:31
by __Super_6__5__
Prevtzer, insults dont get people to jump on your side, it has the opposite effect, you have a good day man and im sorry that you feel this way and please feel free not come to our server any more, we obviously have failed you and are clearly unable to meet your expectations.
Can i count on not seeing you in our servers again?
thank you for your feedback.
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 20:51
by Leut.dweed
__Super_6__5__ wrote:Prevtzer, insults dont get people to jump on your side, it has the opposite effect, you have a good day man and im sorry that you feel this way and please feel free not come to our server any more, we obviously have failed you and are clearly unable to meet your expectations.
Can i count on not seeing you in our servers again?
thank you for your feedback.
Ahh, this is like you guys(kids) are on the server. It feels like the server is older than it's admins.
I remember when I asked what I got kicked for(did nothing at all) the only answer of you was shut up ******* and you temp banned me

. I mean it's no problem that you guys have to compensate your lack of real life on your server with kicks and bans.
I remember that 1 year ago, I asked a guy in my squad what HOG means and his answer was "Hitlers own gamingserver" fits better then ever I guess

Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 20:53
by York
Leut.dweed wrote:
Problem with that kick and banning festival on your server is, that people like me who have to work hard for their money don't have that much time to play Pr. You have to start the game, then it takes its time to join a full server, luckily you can join the server and load the map. You play 15 minutes and a server crash happens. Rejoin the server loading a skirmish map and playing it out. -> 1 hour is over. Map switches to an AAS or INS map and you start playing it. 10 minutes later you get kicked or banned for mostly no reason. And then your few hours you have available to play are over...
Stopped playing PR because of that. It's just a waste of time since you never know if you can end a round.
Jm2c
And I would say you are full of it. At least 80% of players that play on our server never even get noticed by our admins, let alone kicked/banned "for no reason". (That's always classic.) I was one of them for 2 years before joining HOG. Never had any issues with any HOG admins. And that's the rub. It is so easy to play on our server and not even be noticed if you just play and don't push the edges. But you will always have the 20% smacktards that can't be happy with that. No matter what. They don't want to, and refuse to play within the boundaries. Or they just want attention their mommies didn't give them. And you're not the only one who works hard for their money. Try spending some of it on a PR server and running that however you want? .... I didn't think so. So be it, happy trails.
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 21:05
by SuperHornet
All praise the HOG admins who are never wrong.
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 21:14
by Leut.dweed
York wrote:And I would say you are full of it. At least 80% of players that play on our server never even get noticed by our admins, let alone kicked/banned "for no reason". (That's always classic.) I was one of them for 2 years before joining HOG. And that's the rub. It is so easy to play on our server and not even be noticed if you just play and don't push the edges. But you will always have the 20% smacktards that can't be happy with that. No matter what. They don't want to, and refuse to play within the boundaries. So be it, move along.
Play since 0.1 and I never got banned or kicked on any server before(1 time accidenttly on NWA, but it cleared up and they said sry). Just on Hog. You can do what you want on your server, since you pay it. It is okay, but I don't get why there still are people who want to play there? There are no clans on your server anymore and I bet it is because every clan has atleast 1 or 2 guys who are banned on your server.
Of course some clan guys play there with fun nicks.
It's awesome that we can discuss here without fearing to get kicked or banned.
Your server rules do not really count on the server, you guys make the rules like you need them at the moment.
Your server is one of the reasons why PR is dying. Getting kicked or banned for doing shit mostly does not stop people to play. But getting kicked or banned for nothing made atleast me stopping to play.
And I bet I'm by far not the only one.
Edit: I am not banned on HOG server, so iam not writing here for revenge or something like that, I'm writing that because the best game ever made(after desert combat) is dying faster then ever.
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 21:22
by Leut.dweed
Double post sry.
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 21:30
by __Super_6__5__
wow, weed, really? proof? this is getting comical.
you dont get why people still play there? um, you should talk to them and NOT SPEAK for them, which is what you are doing now.
the server is full nearly 24 7.
READ and follow the rules and no problems, others have posted that very comment, but you dont care about them either, they are pubbers too, their word no good too?
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 21:32
by __Super_6__5__
Superhornet, which is your server, i wanna come play there to see how you run your server, i wanna learn from you some things we could do to help our server. Which one is it?
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 21:34
by Leut.dweed
__Super_6__5__ wrote:Superhornet, which is your server, i wanna come play there to see how you run your server, i wanna learn from you some things we could do to help our server. Which one is it?
It's called school. Would be awesome to see you there.

Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 21:48
by York
Leut.dweed wrote: But getting kicked or banned for nothing made atleast me stopping to play.
And I bet I'm by far not the only one.
And you sure are right there!!!! Actually, we set a goal every day on how many we can kick and ban for nothing.

Now if we can just get all those other players we kick and ban "for nothing" to stop coming back on our server, we'd have it all to ourselves...

Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 21:57
by __Super_6__5__
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Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 22:02
by Leut.dweed
York wrote:And you sure are right there!!!! Now if we can just get all those other ones we kick and ban "for nothing" to stop coming back on our server, we'd have it all to ourselves...
I'm stopping the discussion here since you guys are too ineducated to discuss with. Speaking of a 2 sided medal but only you boys(adults can discuss in an objective way) stay on one side of it.
Everyone who says something negative against your server gets attacked. Why do you care if I'm so wrong? See ya hopefully not in Pr2 bye
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 22:07
by Prevtzer
Wow, you HOG guys really are delusional. From my limited experience with 1.0 the player-base has gotten a lot worse, a lot of people don't have mics or aren't willing to communicate, squads that serve no purpose, every squad/ guy for himself etc.
HOG server has always been regarded as a 'wild west, anything goes' type of server, which is why it's currently so "popular" - your player-base isn't quiet looking for the experience PR can offer.
I rarely have the time to play, but when I do I'll make sure to join your server. If I need to leave in a hurry I'll just type: "ok," into all-chat and get kicked instantly. Surely a lot faster than pressing escape, waiting for he menu to load and disconnecting manually.
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 22:12
by Tequila
Prevtzer wrote:
HOG server has always been regarded as a 'wild west, anything goes' type of server, which is why it's currently so "popular" - your player-base isn't quiet looking for the experience PR can offer.
I think you have the wrong idea about the server. Its in no way a "wild west anything goes" server. There are rules and those rules are tightly enforced. What is your in game name? I'll have someone look at the logs and see exactly what you said and exactly why you were kicked. Maybe we can start with that.
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 22:40
by Tequila
While we are at it, Leut.Dweed, what is your in game name?
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-02 23:23
by Murphy
Conversation went from "Admins kick and ban for nothing" to "server is the wildwest, no rules".
I may be out of line here but HOG has plenty of clan tags floating around at any given time, if you don't have much time to play you clearly do not have your finger on the pulse of PR. Stop circle talking and stick to your initial points, flip flopping just goes to prove a lot of posts are nothing but flame bait.
HOG provides a great atmosphere for new players as well as seasoned veterans, anyone who argues otherwise has a grudge or hasn't played very often of late. Admins are individuals and as such they all deal with situations in their own way, if you got "kicked for nothing" the admin would say otherwise 100% of the time. Trying to force your side of the story nullifies any chance at further discussion, so next time you want to talk about "kids" and "old men" make sure you meet the maturity levels required for a proper discussion.
Re: =HOG= (North America)
Posted: 2013-12-03 00:07
by Tequila
Thank you Murphy.
Prevtzer, we checked the logs and have no records of you being on the server in the last 3-4 months. With that said, the admins on HOG do care about these kinds of issues, but only if they are real issues. If people are going to post things that we can't look at, review, or verify, then theres nothing we can do and it makes it look like people are just trying to smear the server for things that (if) they happened, was so long ago that there is nothing that can be done about it.