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'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino']Hey,

Basically pretty much all the info I have for this is off the wiki and other places like that since its a bit before our MAs hehe

Sea Cat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Basically the Tigercat is the land based version of the Sea Cat, Naval short-range surface to air missile. I believe the missiles for both the Sea Cat and Tigercat are pretty much identical, only there launch pads are different although not 100% on that.

One interesting fact that is mentioned in the wiki but goes into more detail in other places is that Britain sold these to Argentina a few years before the war as they where simply obsolete, which was pretty much proven when they didn't score any kills during the conflict (although the Sea Cat, which was still in use on British ships did score a few small kills, but was mainly used as a shore barrage weapon rather than an anti-aircraft weapon (can't remember where I read that thou but pretty sure it was the sea cat)).

There is also a targeting trailer as well that needs to be made, which will be next to the tigercat launcher, and the player will enter control the missile from with the view from the targeting trailer, but the tigercat will turn with the trailer bubble thing, much like how the AA missiles turn with the Phalanx AA gun on the carrier defenses if you've ever been in that in vBF2. How this works you don't need to worry to much as long as you make the object realistically with the bits that should rotate, can rotate separately then the exporters/coders can do the rest


(ignore the guy sitting outside, we won't have him)

1st person view just needs to be a view port to look out of basically, don't really need that even but will help

also while this weapon system was obsolete and yes, shit in r/l we will be making it so it is effective ingame for gameplay reasons so you don't need to worry about that
We may at some point try to get some kind of Command Line-Of-Sight (CLOS) working, ie, you need to steer the weapon manually into the target but wont be for the initial release and most likley wont go beyond POC as it will most likely make all the AA useless

Sorry I can't provide you with any drawings or detailed dimensions etc, for the most part you will just have to guess tbh and bits you don't have refs for possibly just make up



Have any questions or need more info/refs don't be afraid to ask and I can see what I can do but this is all what I've got at the moment and if I find any more refs, will send them to you


Cheers!

'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino']More on this poster, typed up as much as I can from it (with your edits added on too):


Tigercat is a small and highly manoeuvrable ground to air guided missile now going into service only with the army and the RAF regiment. It is instantly ready for engaging and destroying all close-range and low-level aircraft targets. Tigercat is particularly useful for the defences of important bridges, fuel dumps and airfields.
The missile itself is very reliable and compact with its electronics equipment and explosive warhead. The Tigercat system consists of three missiles launcher and a director, each mounted on a two-wheeled trailer chassis. Both can be towed by Land-Rover vehicles over cross country.
The aimer sitting in the director bin tracks the target though binoculars and, by a guidance system connected to a radio command transmitter and computers at the rear of the trailer in charge of the control officer, he can aim and fire the missile and guide it by radio control to the target. The missile follows any evasive move by the aircraft and cannot miss. LOL
Power supplies for the system are taken from a generator which is carried on one of the towing vehicles. Reloading the three missile launcher takes less than three minutes.
Tiger has been developed and made by Short Brothers and Harland Ltd, Belfast.

Key to the Tigercat Missile
1. Fuse Head
2. High-explosive Warhead
3. Electronic Control Pack
4. Movable wings for control of pitch and direction
5. Electronic guidance pack which receives the aimers commands via a radio link transmitter
6. Rocket motor
7. Fixed fins
8. Exhaust nozzles.

Key to the Director
9. Flight controller and radio transmitter ****
10. The aimer keeps a visual track of the missile though the binoculars and guides it, via the fight controller, to its target.
11. Firing trigger
12. Elevating arm
13. Revolving director bin
13. Cables of electro-hydraulic systems to computer
15. Electronic motor drive to bin turntable
16. All motions and missile launches are controlled by a computer in charge of the control officer.
17. Power supply from towing vehicle

Key to Missile Launcher
18. Tigercat missiles ready for launching
19. Loading ramps
20. Towing arm
21. Launcher Platform
22. Trunatable
23. Hydraulic motor drive to turntable. This turns the missile horizontally through 180 degrees
25. Missile Support
26. Firing apparatus
27. Ground support leg. extended.


Looking like giant milk bottles in there weatherproof casings, the Tigercat launcher and its Land-Rover towing vehicle followed by the Director towing vehicle with power supply generator.

'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino']Ye that would be good if you can send the corrections back

And ye you don't need to model the inside of the bubble thing, all you need to do is model a 1st person view to look out of from it, which will only be seen in the 1p model

For example here is the carrier deference with phalanx and sea sparrow missile launcher, which is pretty much the same thing your doing other than with no gun



If I switch to the 1p model all there is for the Phalanx gun is a TV screen and the gun sticking out, the rest of it has been deleted, although the Sea Sparrow launcher is still there.


and when entered, all you see is the TV screen surrounding your view from the right place, the barrels and the sea sparrow


so all you really need to model for the 1st person bit is the "binoculars" the player looks though, a bit like this:


Hope that explains it

Cheers!

lucky.BOY wrote:As for the director, we seem to be talking about different things here:

1) The "gunner", simply the guy in the bin, that will shoot the missile and player will be in this role. I dont think that I can do the copula as on this picture: http://i.imgur.com/PuilE.jpg because to me it seems that this is a cover for transport and for deployment it would be unattached and the director would look like in the poster, with the guys head exposed.
I know i am adding work to myself here but leaving the copula on seems a bit cheap to me.

2) When looking trhough binoculars, you simply dont get a image like described on a poster or in nearly every film, you get a simple circular picture. Try it sometime if you dont believe me . This is really a cosmetic thing though.

3) The "controling officer" who sits outside of the director trail on that box and stares into the computer. I was originally referring to him.
I know we are leaving this fella out, so I am purposing to leave his workstation closed, i.e. those two metal sheets that are probably closed while transporting to cover the computer inside, leave those two closed to save on work. No. 16 on the poster.

Cheers

'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino']

lucky.BOY wrote:Here is the text, changes in bold.

As for the director, we seem to be talking about different things here:

1) The "gunner", simply the guy in the bin, that will shoot the missile and player will be in this role. I dont think that I can do the copula as on this picture: http://i.imgur.com/PuilE.jpg because to me it seems that this is a cover for transport and for deployment it would be unattached and the director would look like in the poster, with the guys head exposed.
I know i am adding work to myself here but leaving the copula on seems a bit cheap to me.

2) When looking trhough binoculars, you simply dont get a image like described on a poster or in nearly every film, you get a simple circular picture. Try it sometime if you dont believe me . This is really a cosmetic thing though.

3) The "controling officer" who sits outside of the director trail on that box and stares into the computer. I was originally referring to him.
I know we are leaving this fella out, so I am purposing to leave his workstation closed, i.e. those two metal sheets that are probably closed while transporting to cover the computer inside, leave those two closed to save on work. No. 16 on the poster.

Cheers

cheers,

1. Ye I think your right there, thought it was just a cutaway view but that's just the bit below it and in this ref, you can see the guy poking out like the above: http://i.imgur.com/di10y.jpg
And ye, it would be cheap, needs a basic seat in there, much like a tank couple gun area and then thing that holds the sights etc

2. Ye I know what you mean, but bincos view works better for wide screens hehe, up to you

3. It would be good I think if we had that work station open IMO. I know its extra work but we could minimize it by having it 90% texture detail for the switch board on just some big boxes with the odd modeled switch, would really add to the detail