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Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-12 17:53
by mries
Just a quick nooby question:
When you are a passenger you will see that interior instead of just watching the outside through binocular like other apc's/ifv?
If so, that is awesome!

Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-12 18:49
by AfterDune
Yep, you see the inside of the vehicle, so can't look outside.

Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-14 05:43
by CTRifle
Alright, so I dont see why I shouldnt do the wreck first (its simpler so I thought Id get it out of the way, and it helps me to get used to working in this way of organizing) So, I got a export scene to compare to and I set it up like Mineral said, and it is alot easier to organize :D

I know its far from perfect, so try to not rip me a new one :D Im sure theres lots of stuff to optimize but I didnt want to get rid of too much..

Hierarchy
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Cols
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Lods
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Also, can someone respond to the material pic I have from before?
Thanks for all the help thus far

Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-14 06:55
by Rhino
Its hard to tell with your pics what you need and wont you don't with the whole laying out in a line approach. Personally I like to have everything on top of each other and just hide what you don't want to see and when working with multiple meshes using wireframe etc, far easier to see how things line up etc with the LODs etc. So ye, can't give any feedback on col0 as such because of that.

col2 is looking better but can see some useless verts/edges that can be optimized etc, mainly the two rear inner verts coming up from the track bits, they don't need to be there and the turret is still far too detailed, all that lip is going to do is make it harder for players to walk on the top of the turret rather than giving it more detail, just make the top flat or if its a big drop, a ramp at the most too the two levels.

col1 still needs a lot of work. Like I said originally, its best to make col1 from scratch rather than trying to optimize down a LOD as they can be and need to be so simplistic, its soo much less work. Literally all the turret needs to be is a box and the same pretty much for the hull. Given a proper side and front pic I could quickly draw it quickly but can't see any to hand.

Also for the turret, it ideally should be its own object on the wreck mesh with its own cols so that when the vehicle is destroyed, the turret is pointing in the same direction as it was before it blew up. Most of PR's vehicles aren't setup like this and just have their turret snapped forward but I'm pretty damn sure its possible and think you just set the wreck up with the same hierarchy as the main model, just simplified to only have the main components you want in their right place which is basically only the turret in this case I think.


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TBH I don't bother with unique wreck materials myself unless there is a good reason an object needs it. Your better off just assigning the normal materials to the wreck and keeping things like glass, glass instead of a "wreck mat" :p

Also on your naming, would call it "armour_front" etc rather than "metal_front" and also the important thing to name in the materials is not the sub object name but the actual material name. Right now after exporting all its going to show in the .con/.tweak file is "Material #1" for metal_front, "Material #2" for wreck etc.

Posted: 2014-04-14 11:42
by CTRifle
Awesome thanks, I'll make the changes

Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-15 15:17
by CTRifle
Alright, I got here, stuck on what to do next to set up the bones properly
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Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-15 23:26
by Rhino
I don't have much experience with tracks or the skin modifier etc but I think you will want to do this by painting vertex weight.

Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-16 14:15
by Amok@ndy
mschoeldgen has a good tutorial here: Exporting A Tank - BF2 Community Tutorials - Official BF Editor Forums

dunno if you know it already

Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-16 14:23
by Mineral
BFEDITOR IS BACK!

Posted: 2014-04-16 14:56
by CTRifle
Yes I've been using it, thanks. I figured it out :D
[R-DEV]Mineral wrote:BFEDITOR IS BACK!
I know, phew :)

Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-17 11:48
by Mongolian_dude
Stick a single AT-4 inside the interior!
In theory it should only effect those inside the vehicle, since it will be lod 0?


I know nothing, John Snow.

Posted: 2014-04-17 11:53
by CTRifle
You're correct :D hmm I'm thinking that or just another rack

Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-17 11:58
by Mongolian_dude
How about one of the little ammo cases that the humvee drops? Would they fit anywhere?

Posted: 2014-04-17 19:16
by CTRifle
Yeah I could prob grab the texture.

Everything is linked up in hierarchy
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Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-18 05:25
by Wicca
woooow.

Bravo! I am just jizzing in my pants.

CT FOR RCON!

Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-18 05:27
by CTRifle
@Rhino or whoever knows, can you write out or show me a hierarchy or list of materials so I can set mine up properly.

So far I used a multi/sub obj to apply
-Front
-rear
-top
-back
-glass
-wheels
-tracks

So what is the naming for the actual application of the textures, I have the outside, the tracks and the interior that need to be applied. Thanks!

Been getting this so something is wrong
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Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-18 06:18
by Rhino
What version of 3DsMax are you using?....

Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-18 12:14
by Amok@ndy
http://i.imgur.com/qltKsre.png

looks like 2012

doh ....

Re: [Vehicle] CV9035NL (WIP)

Posted: 2014-04-18 12:29
by Mineral
Can you also show your actual hierarchy? :D With names and stuff. I also do not recommend spreading everything out like that when working on an export scene. Otherwise later you'll spend lots of time making everything fit right again with pivot's and so on. Just keep everything centered in the middle of the scene when making col's/lod's.

Posted: 2014-04-18 12:44
by CTRifle
I have 2009... Just read into it and shit, not the same as 9. I'll transfer it over.. > :(