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Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2016-12-01 02:00
by Vista
Rezza wrote:Yea I will take screenshots next time. Unfortunately I left since was awaited quickly on another server. Is there any chance of checking server logs? It happened exactly on the time I made that post.
We've identified the round, sooner or later, bans will happen. Again, thanks for the report!

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2016-12-02 10:55
by sweedensniiperr
Good admining last night. One thing though: when you do a vote that says "Falklands" I would expect that it was meant that map not another vote later with Goose green and Falklands.

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2016-12-02 16:10
by Filamu
I think we the players can take part of the responsibility there as very many that spammed about goose green.

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2016-12-07 15:09
by Vista
Indeed. The admin that started that vote put up Falklands but so many people wanted Goose Green that we decided to put falklands and Goose Green on a second vote :P

Also this was my 1000th post. Wow.

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 20:20
by Mats391
Just got some power hungry admins not knowing their own rules kill our entire squad. We rushed first flag on Dovre as Dutch. Rules specifically state that on maps like Dovre both teams are allowed to rush.
You are not allowed to attack the enemy team’s first cappable flag within the first ten minutes, unless the map is specifically designed for such attacks. This includes maps with spawn points on flags, paradrop points, and maps with only two neutral flags.

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 20:26
by disnoxxio
Please report the admins on the forums or the incident if you can so we can deal with it. Or at least give us the names so we can sort this out.
If your message is what happened then we will apologize obviously.

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 20:55
by gwa1hir
[R-DEV]Mats391 wrote:Just got some power hungry admins not knowing their own rules kill our entire squad. We rushed first flag on Dovre as Dutch. Rules specifically state that on maps like Dovre both teams are allowed to rush.
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Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 21:07
by sweedensniiperr
disnoxxio wrote:Please report the admins on the forums or the incident if you can so we can deal with it. Or at least give us the names so we can sort this out.
If your message is what happened then we will apologize obviously.
If I don't report it on your forum will you then not deal with it?

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 21:07
by LiamBai
As far as I'm aware, Mats doesn't have a based forum account.

The admin in question was Vista. FFG was repeatedly telling the admins what the rules said, and while I normally wouldn't believe FFG 100% in such a situation, he did actually write these rules.
As many based members are often complaining about how nothing happens to the admins of other communities who abuse their rights, I'm naturally curious to see how this plays out. ;)

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 21:08
by fecht_niko
[R-DEV]Mats391 wrote:Just got some power hungry admins not knowing their own rules kill our entire squad. We rushed first flag on Dovre as Dutch. Rules specifically state that on maps like Dovre both teams are allowed to rush.
Isnt there a rule about powerhungry -snip- spamming chat, rushing first flag eventhough they dont have para on dutch side. Joining winning team, stacking all the time?
You should focus on balance and not being a -snip- -snip-...

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Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 21:10
by fecht_niko
[R-CON]LiamBai wrote:As far as I'm aware, Mats doesn't have a based forum account.

The admin in question was Vista. FFG was repeatedly telling the admins what the rules said, and while I normally wouldn't believe FFG 100% in such a situation, he did actually write these rules.
As many based members are often complaining about how nothing happens to the admins of other communities who abuse their rights, I'm naturally curious to see how this plays out. ;)
No one cares about your opinion. Most people know that you lie, are a snitch, shit talk, ONLY join winning team...
And this as PRT admin... good job boy

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 21:16
by FFG
fecht_niko wrote:No one cares about your opinion. Most people know that you lie, are a snitch, shit talk, ONLY join winning team...
And this as PRT admin... good job boy
We were never asked by admins to switch for balance. It is not our jobs as player to decide when to balance, it is the place of admins to do so.

It is quite clear that Vista is a piss poor admin, Not only did he admit on teamspeak that he kill commanded us not based on rules but because he was "rekt". He also admitted that he enforced a rule that doesn't exsist as his apparent need to immediately create a vote clarifying the rule better in the admin forums.

As the person who wrote the rule with Dockside_Bars (Former Lead admin NA) and Fnixer (Lead admin EU). This specific rule was written so that on maps like dovre the russians who usually paradrop onto the dutch first flag, could be counter rushed by dutch to the russian first flag.

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 21:23
by fecht_niko
FFG wrote:We were never asked by admins to switch for balance. It is not our jobs as player to decide when to balance, it is the place of admins to do so.

It is quiet clear that Vista is a piss poor admin, Not only did he admit on teamspeak that he kill commanded us not based on rules but because he was "rekt". He also admitted that he enforced a rule that doesn't exsist as his apparent need to immediately create a vote clarifying the rule better in the admin forums.

As the person who wrote the rule with Dockside_Bars (Former Lead admin NA) and Fnixer (Lead admin EU). This specific rule was written so that on maps like dovre the russians who usually paradrop onto the dutch first flag, could be counter rushed by dutch to the russian first flag.
You as former BASED admin should be smart enough to switch to the weaker side without an admin asking you, thats how we do. The admin warned you to push back (no matter what the rule says, if the admin tells you something he might have a reason) but you stayed there and didnt care in order to create drama...

So next time get some balls and try to play on the weaker side!

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 21:26
by fecht_niko
Posting on Vista's behalf:

To mats:

I was simply trying to maintain a balanced and fair match. The rule in question is not a very clear in it self, since it does not state that the team that doesn't have paradrop is allowed to rush first flag.
And if both teams are allowed to rush the first flag, this just defeats the purpose of the rule itself. Also people were complaining on russian side, so to calm everyone down I used the kill command on you and asked to stop allchat.

To FFG:

Yes I totally admitted to you that I got 'rekt' on TeamSpeak and !killed you to protect my ego... -__-. This rule in itself is stupid and as I promised, discussion with the administration has started, and initially quite a few agree that it should be changed.


And you all need to stop saying 'power hungry admin' and 'admin abuse', you need to fucking grow up and get and get over yourself. I used the !kill command, not the ban command. I didn't even kick you - please stop crying.

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 21:27
by FFG
fecht_niko wrote:You as former BASED admin should be smart enough to switch to the weaker side without an admin asking you, thats how we do. The admin warned you to push back (no matter what the rule says, if the admin tells you something he might have a reason) but you stayed there and didnt care in order to create drama...

So next time get some balls and try to play on the weaker side!
Unlike you, I know what goes inside the admin room and at one point held admin powers at BASED. If someone had asked me to switch I would have. But the admins asked the PRT squads instead.

It wasn't to create drama, I was within the rules. Ill stand my ground on the rules.

I don't understand why you're even posting, You aren't an admin on BASED. You have no power over the admins at all as a clan rep.

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 21:39
by FFG

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Map          : dovre
Gamemode     : cq
Layer        : 64
Team 1       : nl
Team 2       : ru
ROUND STARTED: 2017-01-26 21:08

[21:15:40    SQUAD 8] [POV] [PR]EMC|Vista: !s DO NOT ATTACK THE RUS FIRST FLAG
[21:15:49    SQUAD 8] [POV] [PR]EMC|Vista: !admins
[21:15:52    SQUAD 8] [POV] hellraizer: !admins
[21:15:59    SQUAD 8] [POV] [PR]EMC|Vista: !r HELLO? WARN THEM?
[21:16:18    SQUAD 8] SH| Suff: !w ffg leave now
[21:16:18     GLOBAL] [TZ] FFG: ap is designed so that russian can flag rush. So we can flag rush. Read the rules shitlords
[21:16:28     TEAM 1] SH| Suff: !w ffg leave now
[21:16:38     TEAM 1] SH| Suff: !w ffg you know rules
[21:16:39     TEAM 1] [TZ] FFG: ts the rules.
[21:16:46     TEAM 1] [TZ] FFG: wrote the rules, I know what it says
[21:16:54     TEAM 1] [TZ] FFG: f the map is designed for it, we can both rush
[21:19:49    SQUAD 8] [POV] [PR]EMC|Vista: !switch vista
[21:19:56    SQUAD 8] [POV] [PR]EMC|Vista: !switch vista now
[21:20:02    SQUAD 1] #mlg jack_howitzer: !s dutch you have no right to be on russian first flag
[21:20:10     TEAM 1] [TZ] FFG: !r learn your server rules
[21:20:29     TEAM 1] [POV] [PR]EMC|Vista: !kill #7us rushing first flag
[21:20:33    SQUAD 8] [POV] ARC*fecht_niko: !admins
[21:20:38     GLOBAL] Brah banPepe: Last time I played on this shit server we were told to leave appartments at start
[21:20:41     TEAM 1]  [R-CON]Liam: :^)
[21:20:45     GLOBAL] Brah banPepe: But you can rush now of course
[21:21:03     GLOBAL] Radi Karl: aas withouth rush is useless
[21:21:16     GLOBAL] [3dAC] Frontliner(Ger): not like nobody was jumping off over appartments oh no
[21:21:26     GLOBAL] Brah banPepe: o warn them
[21:21:28     GLOBAL] #mlg jack_howitzer: different 4 parachute spawn
[21:21:39     GLOBAL]  LimitJK: indeed nobody was
[21:21:41     GLOBAL] #mlg jack_howitzer: read rules yes
[21:21:41     GLOBAL] [FZ] Circular: all of us were at center
[21:21:43     GLOBAL] [3dAC] Frontliner(Ger): am I an admin
[21:21:52    SQUAD 1] MONGOL Rankaisija: !admins
[21:21:56     GLOBAL] [POV] ARC*fecht_niko: you are shit nothing more
[21:21:57     GLOBAL] [3dAC] Frontliner(Ger): G said it was legit so I followed along
[21:22:01    SQUAD 3]  LimitJK: !admins
[21:22:06     GLOBAL] [TZ] FFG: ts the server rules
[21:22:11     GLOBAL] [TZ] FFG: lassic vista
[21:22:21     GLOBAL] [POV] [PR]EMC|Vista: will adress this with the admins
[21:22:28     GLOBAL] [POV] [PR]EMC|Vista: his issue wont happen again later
[21:22:28     GLOBAL] [TZ] FFG: Both teams can rush first flag if the map is designed to be
[21:22:35     GLOBAL] [POV] ARC*fecht_niko: NO
[21:22:41     GLOBAL] [POV] [PR]EMC|Vista: Let's keep playing, I will make sure this issue never happens again
[21:22:44     GLOBAL] [POV] [PR]EMC|Vista: top allchat
[21:22:48     GLOBAL] [TZ] FFG: You cant inforce rules that dont exsist vista
[21:23:00     GLOBAL] [POV] [PR]EMC|Vista: nd you can stop allchat and keep playing
[21:23:12    SQUAD 8] <FA> woutersparre: !admins
[21:23:27    SQUAD 7] [TZ] FFG: !r vista kill commanded my entire squad for a rule that doesn't exsist
[21:23:38    SQUAD 1] #mlg jack_howitzer: !w ffg get rekt m8
[22:01:47     GLOBAL] [TZ] FFG: inb4 POV ragequit
[22:02:00     GLOBAL] [POV] [PR]EMC|Vista: nah bro
[22:03:43     GLOBAL] [POV] ARC*fecht_niko: fuckboy we arent winning team joiner
[22:03:57     GLOBAL] [POV] ARC*fecht_niko: map imbalance but u still suck
[22:04:07     GLOBAL] [TZ] FFG: You get paradrops
[22:04:14     GLOBAL]  [PR]EMC|Raidonrai: outplayed tbh
[22:04:16     GLOBAL] [TZ] FFG: my entire squad got kill commanded
[22:04:22     GLOBAL] [TZ] FFG: and your still losing
[22:04:27     GLOBAL] [TZ] Jello: You're just jealous because of our wooden clogs

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 21:40
by fecht_niko
FFG wrote:Unlike you, I know what goes inside the admin room and at one point held admin powers at BASED. If someone had asked me to switch I would have. But the admins asked the PRT squads instead.

It wasn't to create drama, I was within the rules. Ill stand my ground on the rules.

I don't understand why you're even posting, You aren't an admin on BASED. You have no power over the admins at all as a clan rep.
Unlike you a respected player asks the admins to switch in order to balance but you dont care, because a respected player doesnt want to play all time on the stacked side.
I dont need power over admins to post here boy. And you created drama when you resist the admin command.

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 21:42
by FFG
fecht_niko wrote:Unlike you a respected player asks the admins to switch in order to balance but you dont care, because a respected player doesnt want to play all time on the stacked side.
I dont need power over admins to post here boy. And you created drama when you resist the admin command.
Weren't you the one backseat admining asking an admin to put merk on 1 team after the admins had already done so?

Also Alons tracker shows us destroying Vista's squad and then getting kill commanded.....

http://eu.databased.eu/pr/1/viewer1.4/i ... Rdemo#1162

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 21:45
by Clund
We are currently discussing that Rule.

Apparently that rule was designed to allow both teams to rush and it wasn't clear to Vista. I will slap his *** by myself that this does not happen again.

Re: Based | EU

Posted: 2017-01-26 21:47
by fecht_niko
FFG wrote:Weren't you the one backseat admining asking an admin to put merk on 1 team after the admins had already done so?

Also Alons tracker shows us destroying Vista's squad and then getting kill commanded.....

http://eu.databased.eu/pr/1/viewer1.4/i ... Rdemo#1162
There was only 1 new admin on when I asked him to switch a clan to balance.
I played this game for years, was admin on several servers and can tell you right away if teams arent balanced.

He warned you 2 times before killcommand so dont play the cheap card.