lilgeez wrote:Slightly off topic but, why remove street? The atmosphere on that map was incredibly real, especially the sound effects playing in the backround... heck it was my favourite map, can't we have street back? PLEEEEEASSE
Street wasn't removed because it was a Bad Map, it was removed to stop server admins from using it incorrectly.
Street was designed for 16 players; two teams each with two squads of four players. You send four guys up to capture each flag while four defend the last flag, or move them around in any other combination.
Instead, server admins running servers with 64 slots put it on their map rotations. Instantly you have a map that's designed for close-quarters combat between limited numbers of combatants being filled with 32 players a side.
It goes from being a map about controlling lines of sight, using cover effectively and having people providing overwatch whilst you move in, to "who can throw the most heavy ordnance down-range".
I used to play that map on some servers and see the Heavy AT and Light AT kits being used like... like... god, I can't even think of a suitable way of describing it. It was just awful.
Street was a gorgeous map - well set out, lots of lovely objects to hide behind, lots of good play... when there's 20 of you at most. Between 64, it's ridiculous.
Also, that soundtrack you say was so immersive? It was almost as annoying as the explosive-spamfest. During the rarer quiet moments it became difficult to tell when a position was being attacked, because you couldn't distinguish gunfire from the soundtrack noises.
Instead, the changes to sound effects made in 0.7 - in that every gunshot now should be heard out to over 400m away, in a scalling level of loudness - means that
every map you play should have a soundtrack playing - but one that's tactically relevant.
If there was a way to physically stop server admins running maps with more than the right number of players, I'm pretty sure Street would come back. As it is? No chance.
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