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Expendable Grunt wrote:And of course you would say all the same things about the German faction they say about the US one. The real one, that is. Anyways, I would also like to see America get wtfstomped by some other nation. It is time those imperialistic pigs stopped being just like everyone else.

I really wish the MEC would get a locally produced tank or two

Come on guys, they're *fictional*; use that to your advantage!

M.

Expendable Grunt wrote:And of course you would say all the same things about the German faction they say about the US one. The real one, that is. Anyways, I would also like to see America get wtfstomped by some other nation. It is time those imperialistic pigs stopped being just like everyone else.

I really wish the MEC would get a locally produced tank or two

Come on guys, they're *fictional*; use that to your advantage!

M.

The Middle Eastern Coalition (MEC)

History

During the late 20th and early 21st century, the situation in the Middle East resembled more and more a powder cask, ready to explode at any moment. While the European Community was more or less looking helplessly on the development, unable to make any concise decisions, the United States took the initiative and began a series of military operations. These were publicly advertised as humanitarian operations, destined to bring peace, stability and democracy to the region. Everyone knew though, that the main goal was simply to secure US access to the oil reserves of the Middle East.

After the invasions into Afghanistan and Iraq, the countries in the region started to realize, that if they wanted to prevent being picked off one by one, they had to unite their forces. Initially, in the first decade of the 21st century, super secret talks of high ranking military and religious leaders and select politicians took place. While the US were struggling to get Iraq and Afghanistan under control and at the same time coveting a possible invasion into Iran, these meetings provided the foundations for what would become the Middle Eastern Coalition.

The leaders of the ME countries knew, they had to create a political, economical and military entity similar to the European Community or the United States, if they wanted to maintain their independence from Western countries. But they also knew, that as long as the US had a third of their military stationed in the region, no such entity would be viable. So they bidded their time.

Finally, in 2010, pressured by increasing budgetary cuts, the US government withdrew the major part of their Iraq forces, leaving only a token force. Also, some units were kept stationed in Saudi Arabia. In Afghanistan, the coalition forces were still struggling with Taliban militias, but the core countries of the Middle East were more or less free of western militaries.

In a coordinated move, the military of Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Kuweit, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Oman and Yemen overthrew their governments and took control.

During Operation Spring Cleaning, all Foreign Military Units stationed in these countries were surrounded, disarmed and given over to local UN forces which quickly extracted these forces. Casualties were kept to a minimum.

The MEC leaders had discussed for a long time on how to organize the new entity they would create and had decided on a federal system, essentially similar to the European Community, with the difference, that no nation would retain its military.

On March, 24th 2011, the MEC Council revealed itself in the city of Baghdad and announced the formation of the Middle Eastern Coalition. Each nation would retain its national law and political structure. Because the national militaries were under control of the MEC Council, local resistance was minimal. Also, almost everyone knew instinctively, that the times for inter-nation quarreling were at an end.

The Western Countries were stunned by the move. While they were scrambling to get their disarmed troops home, they were also struggling on grasping the consequences of a united Middle East. Israel immediately went to Martial Law and declared a State of Emergency, fearing an invasion by the United MEC forces. The US started to mobilize their whole military, getting ready to go to full scale war with the whole of the Middle East over the remaining oil resources.
China, on the other hand, immediately started to search for diplomatic contacts. They had no interest in military engagement in the ME but every interest in the local Oil.

On May, 1st 2011, a MEC envoy addressed the UN Full Assembly in an Emergency Session. He declared, that henceforth, the constituent nations of the MEC were no longer members of the United Nations. They were no longer independent nations, but part of the MEC. As such, there would be only one representative of the MEC in the UN. In the same address, the MEC demanded to be made a permanent member of the UN Security Council. The MEC envoy expressed its wish to maintain peaceful diplomatic relations with Europe, the United States and especially Israel, thus removing any reasons for immediate military actions by the West.
He further declared, that the combined Oil Reserves of the Middle East are considered to be the rightful property of the MEC citizens. As such, all foreign oil companies will have their licenses revoked. All oil production facilities owned by foreign companies will be force-bought by existing or new-founded national companies. Oil production and sales will continue as usual though, only the oil will now actually benefit the population of the MEC.

All oil production facilities owned by foreign companies will be force-bought by existing or new-founded national companies. Oil production and sales will continue as usual though, only the oil will now actually benefit the population of the MEC.

The Middle Eastern Coalition (MEC)

History

During the late 20th and early 21st century, the situation in the Middle East resembled more and more a powder cask, ready to explode at any moment. While the European Community was more or less looking helplessly on the development, unable to make any concise decisions, the United States took the initiative and began a series of military operations. These were publicly advertised as humanitarian operations, destined to bring peace, stability and democracy to the region. Everyone knew though, that the main goal was simply to secure US access to the oil reserves of the Middle East.

After the invasions into Afghanistan and Iraq, the countries in the region started to realize, that if they wanted to prevent being picked off one by one, they had to unite their forces. Initially, in the first decade of the 21st century, super secret talks of high ranking military and religious leaders and select politicians took place. While the US were struggling to get Iraq and Afghanistan under control and at the same time coveting a possible invasion into Iran, these meetings provided the foundations for what would become the Middle Eastern Coalition.

The leaders of the ME countries knew, they had to create a political, economical and military entity similar to the European Community or the United States, if they wanted to maintain their independence from Western countries. But they also knew, that as long as the US had a third of their military stationed in the region, no such entity would be viable. So they bidded their time.

Finally, in 2010, pressured by increasing budgetary cuts, the US government withdrew the major part of their Iraq forces, leaving only a token force. Also, some units were kept stationed in Saudi Arabia. In Afghanistan, the coalition forces were still struggling with Taliban militias, but the core countries of the Middle East were more or less free of western militaries.

In a coordinated move, the military of Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Kuweit, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Oman and Yemen overthrew their governments and took control.

During Operation Spring Cleaning, all Foreign Military Units stationed in these countries were surrounded, disarmed and given over to local UN forces which quickly extracted these forces. Casualties were kept to a minimum.

The MEC leaders had discussed for a long time on how to organize the new entity they would create and had decided on a federal system, essentially similar to the European Community, with the difference, that no nation would retain its military.

On March, 24th 2011, the MEC Council revealed itself in the city of Baghdad and announced the formation of the Middle Eastern Coalition. Each nation would retain its national law and political structure. Because the national militaries were under control of the MEC Council, local resistance was minimal. Also, almost everyone knew instinctively, that the times for inter-nation quarreling were at an end.

The Western Countries were stunned by the move. While they were scrambling to get their disarmed troops home, they were also struggling on grasping the consequences of a united Middle East. Israel immediately went to Martial Law and declared a State of Emergency, fearing an invasion by the United MEC forces. The US started to mobilize their whole military, getting ready to go to full scale war with the whole of the Middle East over the remaining oil resources.
China, on the other hand, immediately started to search for diplomatic contacts. They had no interest in military engagement in the ME but every interest in the local Oil.

On May, 1st 2011, a MEC envoy addressed the UN Full Assembly in an Emergency Session. He declared, that henceforth, the constituent nations of the MEC were no longer members of the United Nations. They were no longer independent nations, but part of the MEC. As such, there would be only one representative of the MEC in the UN. In the same address, the MEC demanded to be made a permanent member of the UN Security Council. The MEC envoy expressed its wish to maintain peaceful diplomatic relations with Europe, the United States and especially Israel, thus removing any reasons for immediate military actions by the West.
He further declared, that the combined Oil Reserves of the Middle East are considered to be the rightful property of the MEC citizens. As such, all foreign oil companies will have their licenses revoked. All oil production facilities owned by foreign companies will be force-bought by existing or new-founded national companies. Oil production and sales will continue as usual though, only the oil will now actually benefit the population of the MEC.

Hresvelgr wrote:The fact that you used lol makes me want to completely disregard your post, but nevertheless, why spend all the time it takes creating a new faction just to satisfy two users including you when EA already made one? Besides, the Reality part of PR is about tactics. Making it so it's just the US versus a random Arab army with much less equipment and people kinda kills the entire point of fighting a roughly equal enemy and using your head.

Also, the MEC probably would include Iran. I know there is hatred between Persians and Arabs, but there is hatred between people in a lot of countries. More importantly, if the MEC did not include Iran it definitely would be called the Arab Coalition or something similar considering all the pan-Arab movements there are. Middle-East is a term used when including Iran in addition to the Arab countries.

How will the new Chinese tank (ZTZ-99) compare to the Abrams in PR? I heard it is pretty damn good.

Expendable Grunt wrote:Iran would sooner die and you know it. In fact they would probably make their own alliances in response.

They should be using older technology that is inferior to the US M1A2 Abrams

Realizing the need for a MBT that is up to par with the Abrams or Challenger, the secretive MEC council forerunner initiated the building of infrastructure that can be used to build tanks. Military Research institutions were founded.
Incidentally, the Russian SVR managed to procure blueprints of the Challenger, Abrams and Merkava and sold them secretly to the pre-emergent MEC.
As soon as the MEC Council revealed itself, massive amounts of money were poured into military projects, amongst others the design and construction of an MEC MBT.
The MEC recruited immigrant scientists and engineers trained in the West.
Soon, the first MBT prototype was built, tested and approved and shortly after, mass production began.

The US does have an advantage over the MEC, and it should be portrayed this way.

SocketMan wrote:The main advantage that the US has over any other country in the
world is the number of Aircraft carriers.They have more then all the
other countries combined.

This is already in game with all the maps featuring US carriers
untouchable by the opposition.

As far as the other toys go:

ICBM's -Topol-M is the best there is or will be in the next 10 years

MLRS -The Russian "Smerch" has double the range of the US counterpart

The most famous/popular/best small arm -AK-47

The most famous/popular/cost effective RPG -rpg7

The best aircraft - tough call (Eurofighter/F35/F22/Mig35/Mig31/Su33...etc)
The best tank -maybe the German L2,but not a clear winner
The best Air Defences -S-400 by a long margin over the "Patriot"
The best helicopters -many think it's Ah-64 many others Ka-50/52 Mi 28n

APC/IFV --BMP3 hands down

What else?

Flanker15 wrote:I wouldn't jump on the "BMP-3 is the best" wagon so quickly, it does have a fearsome weapon system but its armor is still incredibly thin. You can't just swiss cheese it with a .5 machine gun like the BMP-2 but a 25mm shot will still go right through any armor on it and most likly set off the ammunition in the autoloader.
The M2 on the other hand can stop things like 30mm shots from the BMP-2/3 and regular rpgs with it's front armor and has its ammo stored better, with less chance of explosions and fires.

SocketMan wrote:The main advantage that the US has over any other country in the
world is the number of Aircraft carriers.They have more then all the
other countries combined.

This is already in game with all the maps featuring US carriers
untouchable by the opposition.

As far as the other toys go:

ICBM's -Topol-M is the best there is or will be in the next 10 years

MLRS -The Russian "Smerch" has double the range of the US counterpart

The most famous/popular/best small arm -AK-47

The most famous/popular/cost effective RPG -rpg7

The best aircraft - tough call (Eurofighter/F35/F22/Mig35/Mig31/Su33...etc)

The best tank -maybe the German L2,but not a clear winner

The best Air Defences -S-400 by a long margin over the "Patriot"

The best helicopters -many think it's Ah-64 many others Ka-50/52 Mi 28n

APC/IFV --BMP3 hands down

Solid Knight wrote:It's about capabilities. For example, the US could launch missiles from thousands of miles away. They could send bombers in from, say Florida, on a round-trip mission. They can rapidly deploy their forces around the world. The ME can't do any of those. This changes the game quite a bit.