Should the Head shots kill ?

DesmoLocke · Post by **DesmoLocke** » 2009-03-03 22:01

Viki wrote:I wish it would only take one shot, almost anywhere on the body (finger and toe-shots not relative to my point now) and one would be dead/critically wounded.
That'd be both awesome and realistic, I hate the fact how it's in gameplay now; you hit a guy and he sprints/jumps behind a corner, or even worse, dives down the ground and shoot you.
So, 1 hit; 1 kill. Please!

All the best,
Viki

Now you're venturing into the realm of 1 shot = dead. Maybe a Hardcore game mode? You die and there are no respawns. You wait 4 hours for the next game. Sounds like the game mode for you.

The DEVs have already said it's not about total realism. It's impossible with what they're working with. They are going for implied realism.

Post by **Airsoft** » 2009-03-03 23:51

Nothing like some CPR and adrenaline to fix a giant hole through your forehead. by the way headshots should kill, which is why the point of bragging about it

TheParadoX · Post by **TheParadoX** » 2009-03-04 01:23

To the guy who was yelling at the DEVs: stop it, it's useless. The devs have probably all read this and the problem is probably their #1. Still it would be nice to hear any official statement, at least an aknowledgement.

94% is an amazing amount of players. Plus I think that if bullets were more lethal in the game, we'd see less rambo amateurs out there. I feel that this game has become a little less elitist than it used to be. The massive advertisement and the Mod of the year contest brought a lot a new players, NOW is the time to let the community grow by listening to "experienced" players.

I've been around since 0.5 and many of you have even played before me. This release is IMO the best to far, and there are always minor problems that need to be fixed. Still, the headshot problem should be addressed rather quickly, it's not the first time that I feel a bit embarrased when I teach some random newbie that he should keep watching the guy he just took down in order to wait for the medic to show up ... inevitably, he asks "isn't this supposed to be realistic ?"

A game where medis have no epipen would be amazing. Only the medipack and some field dressings. Or maybe only field dressings ? The devs will come up with a good solution I guess.

Cheers

nick20404 · Post by **nick20404** » 2009-03-04 08:46

They should, but since bf2 has a shit hitbox system 50% of the time getting a head shot only sends a cloud of dust flying off there head while doing no damage......

Viki · Post by **Viki** » 2009-03-04 15:38

DesmoLocke wrote:Now you're venturing into the realm of 1 shot = dead. Maybe a Hardcore game mode? You die and there are no respawns. You wait 4 hours for the next game. Sounds like the game mode for you.

The DEVs have already said it's not about total realism. It's impossible with what they're working with. They are going for implied realism.

There's no need to be that arrogant, good sir. You're also putting your own words in my mouth; what you described in your post, is not the case at all.
What I was saying, is simply 1 shot 1 kill, then you would have to be either healed or you'd have to respawn (the normal spawn-time, not 4 hours). Why is this a bad idea? It is not total realism, but it would be more realistic.

All the best,
Viki

Post by **Rico** » 2009-03-04 15:44

The lack of official response concerns me slightly that no change, despite popular opinion, is intended

Cassius · Post by **Cassius** » 2009-03-04 16:25

Usama bin laden running against jesus for mayor of New york would not get such an one sided result.

xXRich07Xx · Post by **xXRich07Xx** » 2009-03-04 16:47

Roughly 94% of the community would like headshots to kill people

Only about 6% want to keep it at vanilla n00bery level.

xXRich07Xx · Post by **xXRich07Xx** » 2009-03-04 16:50

nick20404 wrote:They should, but since bf2 has a shit hitbox system 50% of the time getting a head shot only sends a cloud of dust flying off there head while doing no damage......

Tell me about it, I flanked an entire squad on vanilla last night to knife them, and it took me about two stabs each to kill them.

And it wasn't like I was missing either. I was hearing the beautiful sound of sharpened....

Err lets not get into detail. I knew I wasn't missing. Let's put it that way.

random pants · Post by **random pants** » 2009-03-04 18:13

Rico wrote:The lack of official response concerns me slightly that no change, despite popular opinion, is intended

Which completely baffles me to no end..... do you DEV's actually intend on keeping this in? 94% disapproval and you can't even comment on it?

Good thing I barely play video games anymore....this new "rule" is a total deal-breaker for me in this game... I don't like playing Project-Revive....

Hey DEV's..... I've got a few questions for you... read it out loud to really see how stupid this new change is...

"Should you die if your Humvee is hit by an HE tank shell?"

DEV- Of course you should die

"Should you die if you slam your aircraft into a building at top speed?"

DEV- Of course you should die

"What if you bail out of your aircraft and fall like 300 feet, should you die then?"

DEV - Yes, you should die then as well.

"Well, should you die if you are shot in the head?"

DEV- Well.....no....not really, I mean...kinda? You'll be lying on the ground for 3 minutes....but you can be revived....if you haz teh TEAMWORKZZZZZ!!!!!!111!!

Seriously....WTF?

Axel · Post by **Axel** » 2009-03-04 18:21

Well then don't play it man, simple as.

For the record 1 shot critically wounded is the most realistic idea so far, and death if one takes a hit to the head.
Some small caliber differences aswell.

Alex6714 · Post by **Alex6714** » 2009-03-04 18:23

Axel wrote:Well then don't play it man, simple as.

What kind of a reply is that? How can something improve if thats always the answer...

Axel · Post by **Axel** » 2009-03-04 18:28

I'm sorry, I'll rephrase that. Don't rant buddy it's annoying and makes you look foolish, not litterally but you know.

random pants · Post by **random pants** » 2009-03-04 18:29

Axel wrote:Well then don't play it man, simple as.

For the record 1 shot critically wounded is the most realistic idea so far, and death if one takes a hit to the head.
Some small caliber differences aswell.

Dude, nobody wants that stupid idea of every rifle critically wounding in 1 torso shot....

Even the super-realism crazies understand that the game would be broken IMMEDIATELY

5.56 weapons would DOMINATE, lone-wolfing pros like me would be able to absolutely rape again like back in .6....

Just stop with the 1-torso shot proposal... it really is a horrible idea, and you guys who support it obviously don't have any clue as to how much it would break this game.

Axel wrote:I'm sorry, I'll rephrase that. Don't rant buddy it's annoying and makes you look foolish, not litterally but you know.

Really don't care what you think, it's the internetz... "buddy"

And your idea of a 1-shot torso gameplay is the most foolish thing in this thread by far.

Edit: User was warned for piss poor attitude.

Axel · Post by **Axel** » 2009-03-04 18:30

random pants wrote:Dude, nobody wants that stupid idea of every rifle critically wounding in 1 torso shot....

Even the super-realism crazies understand that the game would be broken IMMEDIATELY

5.56 weapons would DOMINATE, lone-wolfing pros like me would be able to absolutely rape again like back in .6....

Just stop with the 1-torso shot proposal... it really is a horrible idea, and you guys who support it obviously don't have any clue as to how much it would break this game.

We havn't tried, have we?

I would choose it over headshot shooting anyday though.
Well there is a point why most modern armies use the 5.56mm, and if you would have read this thread you would see that there are pretty good assymetrical balances.

gazzthompson · Post by **gazzthompson** » 2009-03-04 18:33

i agree with random pants (WTF??) 1 shot torso hits for all weapons would suck. its good as it is now (g3 power, recoil .... m16 rate of fire low recoil) though the threads not about that.

Axel · Post by **Axel** » 2009-03-04 18:35

gazzthompson wrote:i agree with random pants (WTF??) 1 shot torso hits for all weapons would suck. its good as it is now (g3 power, recoil .... m16 rate of fire low recoil) though the threads not about that.

Project REALITY?

I do think it would be the more realistic option. Over taking a bullet 5.56 or 7.62 and be able to run away full speed or just spraying the shooter with full auto (CQB)

random pants · Post by **random pants** » 2009-03-04 18:39

Axel wrote:Project REALITY?

I do think it would be the more realistic option.

Dude....JUST DROP IT...

Make a new thread if you want for your "great idea"....

This thread is about the new headshot rule, and the tidal wave of suck that washed in with it....

gazzthompson · Post by **gazzthompson** » 2009-03-04 18:41

Axel wrote:Project REALITY?

I do think it would be the more realistic option. Over taking a bullet 5.56 or 7.62 and be able to run away full speed or just spraying the shooter with full auto (CQB)

the 5.56 is renowned for its lack of stopping power. 7.62 renowned for its massive stopping power. but we are going offtopic.

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