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Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-17 23:53
by Stemo
Make him reveal where the enemy FOB is or cut of his balls.

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-18 01:41
by rushn
well you can actually use the unarmed kit by following the enemy troops and telling all their info on team chat leading them to their doom or just saying what kits they have and stuff

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-18 01:53
by mosinmatt
What are some servers that play Insurgency that have mumble?
I am a hardcore member, and while I encourage it, we dont have mumble (we do have a server for it).

I play civi a lot. What usually happens is the guy will look at you with your hands up. Then either a) shoot you or b) wait for you to put your hands down and then shoot you.

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-18 01:58
by rushn
you do not have to have your hands up to have ROE

a lot of people do not use mumble because it is a bit confusing and there is no easy instructions for it or at least thats what I think

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-18 04:09
by bloodthirsty_viking
rushn wrote:you do not have to have your hands up to have ROE

a lot of people do not use mumble because it is a bit confusing and there is no easy instructions for it or at least thats what I think
I dont use mumble at any moment i must fly XD

i tried to surrender on a game of insergency erlier on al-basara to the brits.. they shot at me, missed, and sent one man out to me, he chased me over 100M, then shot me, i told him i could heal myself, and killing me would still be outside of ROE, so he chased me some more, and everytime he decided to turn arround and run, i would stop, walk twards him, and keep throwing rocks XD


To think, i was trying to lead him to the cache, whitch just happend to be just down the street from the masaq XD

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-18 14:59
by KasperX
Lionheart wrote:Would be fun to have some kind of prison in the main base to bring these surrendered people to. There you can lock them up, and they'll be stuck there for 5 min or something.
5 minutes? Who in their right mind would give up to be locked in a little room for 5 minutes? There goes the server population. Waiting to be rescued is even more ludicrous - it could be more then 5 minutes or even the whole round before anyone even comes to free you.

1) I'd rather commit suicide with a 2+ min. respawn then become a POW and rendered TOTALLY USELESS to my team.

2) I'd rather kill an unarmed "soldier" then allow him to collect my teams limited kits and take them back to his team.

3) I'd rather kill an unarmed "soldier" then allow him to run around freely, grab a kit he hid, and then cause my squad potential problems or causalities.

4) I'd rather kill an unarmed "soldier" then allow him to give intel to his team via team chat/vent/teamspeak.

5) I'd rather kill an unarmed "soldier" then allow him and his squad to set up a potential trap/ambush.

So while I like the idea of being able to surrender (thanks DEV's), I still believe that there are more shortcomings then advantages. Sooner or later that unarmed guy is going to pick up a kit or give a **** load of intel to the other team. Call me hardheaded or a role-playing snob, but I will kill anyone who surrenders to me. And I expect the same treatment IF one day I decide to throw down my kit and surrender. I smell a court marshal coming.... :grin:

Kasp 8)

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-18 15:18
by steve_06-07
Idk in Medal of Honor Breakthrough there was a gametype called Liberation, where if you died you ended up in this jail on the enemies side of the map. It was the job of your team to both rescue you by finding an activating the jail doors and at the same time guard the prisoners you already had, and if they couldn't you were stuck in there the entire match.

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-18 15:25
by myles
rushn wrote:you do not have to have your hands up to have ROE

a lot of people do not use mumble because it is a bit confusing and there is no easy instructions for it or at least thats what I think
How is mumble confusing all you need to do is press a button and speak why would you need instructions for that?

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-18 15:45
by sparks50
line up a firing wall and throw stones at him.

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-18 21:59
by Megagoth1702
Just kill the f*cker, steals 1 ticket from the enemy.

Surrenders just make you waste time, tell the enemy where you are and what your plans are etc.

I think they simply invented the "salute" and "hands up" for civies but put it into the unarmed kit, because it would be "fun".

Well, you guys have fun with that. :) So it was good.

But I personally... When I see a dude with his hands up, I'll kill him. F*ckin pussie drops his gun. It's a game goddamit! :D

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-18 22:01
by killonsight95
eat their nipples off.....

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-18 22:31
by gazzthompson

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-18 22:34
by rushn
Megagoth1702 wrote:Just kill the f*cker, steals 1 ticket from the enemy.

Surrenders just make you waste time, tell the enemy where you are and what your plans are etc.

I think they simply invented the "salute" and "hands up" for civies but put it into the unarmed kit, because it would be "fun".

Well, you guys have fun with that. :) So it was good.

But I personally... When I see a dude with his hands up, I'll kill him. F*ckin pussie drops his gun. It's a game goddamit! :D
well thats why it is a game to have fun and I think surrendering should be more fun :grin:

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-19 00:29
by Human_001
How about putting in new rules like these?

1. Extend spawn time alot for dying while holding kit. (The normal KIA situation) Say about 1 minute.

2. Reduce spawn time alot for dying while surrendering and getting KNIFED. Say about 20 second.

3. Spawn time for getting shot and die while surrendering stays same as sentence 1.
(This will avoid enemy player abusing surrender by, say, When getting shot become inevitable, player can exploit by dropping kit, but still act as if he/she has weapon and getting shot in order to respawn in shorter period.

4. When player shoots a player on "surrendered kit" (unarmed), shooter do not receive points or kill for them. This will avoid unnecessary execution of surrendered player.

5. Make Mumble mandatory. Even for those who don't use VOIP. It's good enough they can hear others. It is hard to persue enemy player to surrender on all chat. This just won't work without Mumble.

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-19 01:53
by rushn
Human_001 wrote:How about putting in new rules like these?

1. Extend spawn time alot for dying while holding kit. (The normal KIA situation) Say about 1 minute.

2. Reduce spawn time alot for dying while surrendering and getting KNIFED. Say about 20 second.

3. Spawn time for getting shot and die while surrendering stays same as sentence 1.
(This will avoid enemy player abusing surrender by, say, When getting shot become inevitable, player can exploit by dropping kit, but still act as if he/she has weapon and getting shot in order to respawn in shorter period.

4. When player shoots a player on "surrendered kit" (unarmed), shooter do not receive points or kill for them. This will avoid unnecessary execution of surrendered player.

5. Make Mumble mandatory. Even for those who don't use VOIP. It's good enough they can hear others. It is hard to persue enemy player to surrender on all chat. This just won't work without Mumble.
if you have to get kifed by an enemy to reduce your spawn then the enemy would always shoot you

I think they should just make them like a civy kit they are no threat just like a civy except the civy has rocks!!!!

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-19 08:35
by LUKE_NUKE_EM
I got shot down the other day, I survived, and was walking away from the crash site when I ran straight into an enemy. He hesitated so I put my hands up, and he didn't shoot. Then I asked him for a patch, and he just stared at me for like 10 seconds, then just shot me in the face, and said "no" over global chat.

It was freakin hilarious, too bad I've never been captured everyone just shoots me..

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-19 09:10
by Heikkine
haha, tell hilm to shut up, drive him in to a cave and mine the entrance!

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-19 09:23
by alberto_di_gio
Last night in Yamalia Canadians got us bad. They took all the flags and we've left 4 infantry before they killed us all. 3 of them was my squad. Most of our team was shouting like them to suicide to start the next map but they did not (which I'm supporting)

Now I'm angry to my self why did not I order them to surrender :D That would be fun.

P.S: Do maps end if all the left alive soldiers surrender? If not I think this should be considered for the future :)

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-19 09:24
by zordja
persons who has surrended in RL combat are protected by the Geneva Convention so it should apply here as well

*scenario 1 i am a taliban and surrender to an american squad, they shoot me wich is a crime against the GC(Geneva Convention)

*scenario 2 they take me into custody and put me in a enclosure where they can guard me and other prisoners easily

if a lot of ppl from the other side surrender their overall strength and combat performance decrease so takin a lot of POWs can be one way to win

when i take prisoners nomatter wich side i ablidge to the rules of the Geneva Convention

shooting a POW should lower locals sympathies and faith in your team and to show that the number of tickets in your team is decreased by some like 5-10 same amount if you cap and keep him but then you get that amount of tickets in bonus for keeping him alive and treating him with the respect of a normal POW (POW Prisoner of War)

that's my idea

Re: What to do with surrendered players :L

Posted: 2010-02-19 10:42
by Heskey
Would be nice if for hamas/taliban/insurgents who surrender, their own team mates could teamkill with impunity - Traitors must die, afterall ;)