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Re: Lakshar valley Perfect Terrain for APACHE AH64

Posted: 2010-08-21 17:26
by Johncro
Why does everyone criticize the Dev's/mappers work. If they knew it was "perfect" don't you think that they would put an Apache into the map already.

I've never played the map so I can't give my opinion. But in all likelihood the map was balanced, and from what i read here. Because sometimes ou get a team(insurgent) that decide to base rape you them, uh Deal with it? base raping, imo, is a kick in the *** to make the team work together. If your sooo mad about not having 1 Apache, and you decide to actually put it into the map to see what it would do to better YOUR experience is irrelevant to balance in game. Because, If I recall correctly your not the only one playing this game, We are a community, work this stuff, out, and remember this ISN'T Real life, its a game, if you get mad to someone and only make a post with swearing, then get a life and play baseball or get a girlfriend, because in fact it is only a game. Not real life, when it is come talk to me.

Re: Lakshar valley Perfect Terrain for APACHE AH64

Posted: 2010-08-21 18:46
by Hitman.2.5
Infantry1242 wrote:a UH-60 is a Black Hawk,look it up UH-60 Black Hawk
Cpt. obvious

Re: Lakshar valley Perfect Terrain for APACHE AH64

Posted: 2010-08-21 23:13
by K4on
myles wrote:Yeah but the Germans use apaches.

But i still dont approve of this.
it is the tiger

edit: oh, i ve seen that someone corrected u already :)

Re: Lakshar valley Perfect Terrain for APACHE AH64

Posted: 2010-08-22 05:48
by Bazul14
The OPFOR is supposed to be inferior. If not, go to BF2 SP. The OPFOR players will adapt and they will get AA. Plus a hovering chopper is easy to hit with an RPG, even at 500m altitute. Stop whining about the Tiger/Apache impact on a map that nobody played. On noobservers, like NoobCore, the heli will crash/get raped, or the Talis would get owned. On TG or UKWF or on TAR, where not every noob gets to play, the Apache/Tiger would get to good use while the OPFOR would get some techies up or AAs. The OPFOR already gets the Stinger(right click when selecting the kit from the rose) and the Strela(left click from rose...). It would force both teams to properly manage assets and not get wasted. Also, if you want the heli to be safer at landing and take-off, the Devs can implement an invincibility dome, like on Mutrah's carrier.

Re: Lakshar valley Perfect Terrain for APACHE AH64

Posted: 2010-08-22 21:41
by Drunkenup
Bazul14 wrote:The OPFOR is supposed to be inferior. If not, go to BF2 SP. The OPFOR players will adapt and they will get AA.
Adding the Apache doesn't represent any advantage to BluFor, if anything, its a burden that shouldn't never been thought of. It WILL get shot down as soon as it leaves cover that is non-existent.
Plus a hovering chopper is easy to hit with an RPG, even at 500m altitute. Stop whining about the Tiger/Apache impact on a map that nobody played.
You're taking this conversation another direction.. adding player skill in as a variable.. forget the specifics. I don't know if you making a contradiction by saying the helo will overpower Blufor for vice versa, but it will be a problem for BluFor.
Also, if you want the heli to be safer at landing and take-off, the Devs can implement an invincibility dome, like on Mutrah's carrier.
So do you want the heli to stay in that dome forever? The Taliban will be able to get near it and get eyes on it and wait for the helo to move OUT of the dome, something the MEC CANNOT do on Muttrah. Theres no terrain for the apache to hide where the technicals and Anti-air missiles cannot reach, UNLIKE muttrah.

Re: Lakshar valley Perfect Terrain for APACHE AH64

Posted: 2010-08-22 22:24
by Hunt3r
An Apache is a liability in it's current state, sensors are not good enough to actually accomplish something, especially with the dense vegetation and lack of open terrain.

The Apache is designed to lob Hellfires from the edge of the view distance, not fly in with rockets and guns blazing.

Re: Lakshar valley Perfect Terrain for APACHE AH64

Posted: 2010-08-23 14:56
by Bazul14
It won't get shut down if it gets high enough(600m and higher) and if it keep moving. Other than that, i guess that I can show anyone who is against the Apache/Tiger on Laskar a turd and they will get me another reason why the Apache/Tiger is not good on that map.

Re: Lakshar valley Perfect Terrain for APACHE AH64

Posted: 2010-08-23 15:07
by Bufl4x
And if it gets even higher and uses a spotter to do BVR, it will be a total rape.
I wonder, if i suggest to put the A10 back on bashrah, will that thread live at least 9 pages too?

Re: Lakshar valley Perfect Terrain for APACHE AH64

Posted: 2010-08-23 15:24
by Bazul14
Bufl4x wrote:And if it gets even higher and uses a spotter to do BVR, it will be a total rape.
I wonder, if i suggest to put the A10 back on bashrah, will that thread live at least 9 pages too?
Exactly what i was saying in my previous post. I only saw a heli to BVR fire acurately only on TG, and that was like one or 2 times. BVR is powerfull but not very precise, not even with sq leader as spotter.

Re: Lakshar valley Perfect Terrain for APACHE AH64

Posted: 2010-11-25 03:40
by stealth420
Bump, due to Thermal sights added making the Apache God of the skys

Re: Lakshar valley Perfect Terrain for APACHE AH64

Posted: 2010-11-25 05:05
by Silly_Savage
Give it up already.

The British aren't even on the map anymore.

Re: Lakshar valley Perfect Terrain for APACHE AH64

Posted: 2010-11-25 06:04
by Imchicken1
Silly_Savage wrote:Give it up already.

The British aren't even on the map anymore.
Amen.

Plus i've seen the Germanz win Lashkar more than enough times to say that they dont need any extra help.

Re: Lakshar valley Perfect Terrain for APACHE AH64

Posted: 2010-11-25 15:24
by Dev1200
Silly_Savage wrote:Give it up already.

The British aren't even on the map anymore.
Indeeed =\