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Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-07-23 23:10
by Naruto-kun
Just a liiiiittle suggestion I have: I looked at the design plan and i noticed that the Rifleman and Rifleman Specialist have a HK416 w/EOtech Each.

Could it be an idea to give one of those a AG-3F2 w/Aimpoint instead? Cause i know we have a few G3 Iron sight lovers out here and i think that would be just perfect for them :p

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-07-24 15:30
by KP
As far as I know, the design plan isn't 100 % up-to-date. ;)

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-07-24 17:32
by Rangu
That's right KP, the one that's the most up to date is:
Norwegian Forces Design Plan

(but don't bother to comment on anything as it's not reflecting where we stand today)

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-07-26 11:12
by KP
This would be my suggestion:

Officer: HK416 Aimpoint
Officer Scoped: HK416 Aimpoint/magnifier
Rifleman: HK416 Aimpoint
Rifleman Scoped: HK416 Aimpoint/magnifier
Rifleman Specialist: HK416 EOTech or AG3F2 Aimpoint?
Combat Medic: HK416 Aimpoint
Automatic Rifleman: MG3 (or Minimi? Check with MAs)
Combat Engineer: HK416 Aimpoint
HAT: AG3F1
LAT: HK416 Aimpoint
AA Rifleman: AG3F1
Marksman: AG3F2 ACOG (solid stock & bipod)
Sniper: HK417
Grenadier: HK416 Aimpoint/magnifier + AG416 (requires AG416 model) or AG3F2 Aimpoint/magnifier + HK79
Crewman: MP7
Pilot: Glock 17 or unarmed?

As you can see, there's a lot of Aimpoints going around and less zoom than the other factions' scoped weapons. This means that the soldiers will have to cooperate more with their CV90s, which have the zoom and firepower for longer-range engagements, but are vulnerable in close quarters.

Also a suggestion for the soldier models.
From what I've seen, the TMBN soldiers are issued the Bear vest. Now, I'm not sure if that's what's being used in Afghanistan, and in what colour. Need input from johnandreas on this, but the soldier models should use the kit model that looks the most like the Bear (or whatever's being used) vest.

Interesting link (in Norwegian, but shows some of the kit) about the OMLT guys:
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks ... ce#chNum=2

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-07-26 14:09
by Naruto-kun
'[R-MOD wrote:KP;1094315']This would be my suggestion:

Officer: HK416 Aimpoint
Officer Scoped: HK416 Aimpoint/magnifier
Rifleman: HK416 Aimpoint
Rifleman Scoped: HK416 Aimpoint/magnifier
Rifleman Specialist: HK416 EOTech or AG3F2 Aimpoint?
Combat Medic: HK416 Aimpoint
Automatic Rifleman: MG3 (or Minimi? Check with MAs)
Combat Engineer: HK416 Aimpoint
HAT: AG3F1
LAT: HK416 Aimpoint
AA Rifleman: AG3F1
Marksman: AG3F2 ACOG (solid stock & bipod)
Sniper: HK417
Grenadier: HK416 Aimpoint/magnifier + AG416 (requires AG416 model) or AG3F2 Aimpoint/magnifier + HK79
Crewman: MP7
Pilot: Glock 17 or unarmed?
No bad idea you got there KP.

What marked with Bold letter is what i think we should have out of the choices.
as for the Engi i think we should give him a AG-3F1

But the AG-3F2 with ACOG Solid stock and Bipod sounds brilliant as it simply solves our sniper problem by letting the HK417 become the sniper.

But will the AG-3F2 with ACOG get more zoom? or will it stay with standard 4x Zoom like the US ones?

Also Minimi is only used by FSK/HJK(or at least that's what i think :p )

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-07-26 14:34
by halvor1
'[R-MOD wrote:KP;1094315']This would be my suggestion:

Officer: HK416 Aimpoint
Officer Scoped: HK416 Aimpoint/magnifier
Rifleman: HK416 Aimpoint
Rifleman Scoped: HK416 Aimpoint/magnifier
Rifleman Specialist: HK416 EOTech or AG3F2 Aimpoint?
Combat Medic: HK416 Aimpoint
Automatic Rifleman: MG3 (or Minimi? Check with MAs)
Combat Engineer: HK416 Aimpoint
HAT: AG3F1
LAT: HK416 Aimpoint
AA Rifleman: AG3F1
Marksman: AG3F2 ACOG (solid stock & bipod)
Sniper: HK417
Grenadier: HK416 Aimpoint/magnifier + AG416 (requires AG416 model) or AG3F2 Aimpoint/magnifier + HK79
Crewman: MP7
Pilot: Glock 17 or unarmed?

As you can see, there's a lot of Aimpoints going around and less zoom than the other factions' scoped weapons. This means that the soldiers will have to cooperate more with their CV90s, which have the zoom and firepower for longer-range engagements, but are vulnerable in close quarters.

Also a suggestion for the soldier models.
From what I've seen, the TMBN soldiers are issued the Bear vest. Now, I'm not sure if that's what's being used in Afghanistan, and in what colour. Need input from johnandreas on this, but the soldier models should use the kit model that looks the most like the Bear (or whatever's being used) vest.

Interesting link (in Norwegian, but shows some of the kit) about the OMLT guys:
Ny rolle for norske soldater - - Verden - Aftenposten.no

Quite a solid list theire but we use the c7 as well dont forget that , and if we use the ag416 for GL for the H&K 416 do we have that already made? Or ? If not then we will use the one that the already AG3f2 has. And for the marksman we use the H&K 417 and for sniper the AWM!

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-07-26 15:26
by KP
[quote=""'[R-COM"]halvor1;1094391']Quite a solid list theire but we use the c7 as well dont forget that (no, we don't. The Norwegian Army doesn't use the C7 at all, as far as I know) , and if we use the ag416 for GL for the H&K 416 do we have that already made? Or ? If not then we will use the one that the already AG3f2 has.(could be made from the PR AG36) And for the marksman we use the H&K 417 and for sniper the AWM! (the AWM, while used by Norwegian Special Forces, isn't used by TMBN or any regular Army unit)[/quote]

My thoughts in bold.

[quote="Naruto-kun""]

But will the AG-3F2 with ACOG get more zoom? or will it stay with standard 4x Zoom like the US ones?

[/quote]

Same as the normal 4x zoom, as it's a 4x zoom scope. However, that's more than the regular Aimpoint magnifiers, which are 3x.

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-07-26 16:40
by Wicca
Well, is the MG 3 coming with a scope?

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-08-01 23:29
by KapteinJoachim
Dont know if it's already been posted, but it would have been nice if you used the BV 206 as supplytrucks and for transport :) Image
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I got really surprised when i read about this project ^^
Im really looking forward to it :)

I was in 2 battalion/support "company" where we used those^^

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-08-01 23:55
by Priby
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:the viking is not possible to do in BF2, unless we didn't want the back trailer ingame and just the front cab but that would be 1, unrealistic and 2, pointless...
May not be a Viking, but the concept is the same :D
Edit: Ah, looks like the Viking is a BV 206, sry.

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-08-02 08:17
by Wicca
Hey Joachim, welcome to the forums. Add me on Xfire: wiccasick

We can play togheter abit ;)

Also, im not sure if the Norwegian DEVs, are gonna use another "truck" as we would have to make a completly new model etc.

But it would cool to have it yes... And i would like to have it in my map, since it has tracks.

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-08-03 22:24
by camgirl_17
You better get this rigth, I will not tolerate any f*ck ups! ;-)

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-08-04 09:41
by Wicca
Welcome to the forums Camgirl 17 :D

Do you like the Norwegian forces?

So cool so many new norgies are coming :D

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-08-04 10:18
by camgirl_17
Hey, thanks! :D

Yeah, I consider myself somewhat patriotic when it comes to Norway and thus it's army aswell!

One quick question though; I see that the f16 will be our standard jet, didn't we just sign a deal with the yanks to buy their f-35? On the same time I see we'll have alot of new HK models instead of AG3's.

Is the outsourcing/swapping of figther jets soo far into the future contra the AG3/HK416 etc. that there's no point in having them in the mod yet?


Plz correct me if I'm mistaken, I know there's alot of autists on this forum :P

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-08-04 10:30
by Blade.3510
Wicca wrote:Welcome to the forums Camgirl 17 :D

Do you like the Norwegian forces?

So cool so many new norgies are coming :D
i love the fact that people from all over the EU unite and share info for the sake of PR one more good thing for the unitedness of europe :)

(ontopic)

im confused which service rifle they use is it the G3 or the HK416?

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-08-04 10:35
by J.F.Leusch69
AG3 (modi G3) gets replaced with HK416

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-08-04 11:20
by H.sta
but not completely... AG3-f2 will be used in some cases

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-08-04 11:52
by single.shot (nor)
as far as i know, the AG3 is being used for rear echelon troops, like logistics personell and artilerists. but im not sure of this.

Re: Norwegian Forces

Posted: 2009-08-04 15:37
by KP
And "prioritized" units like the Border Guards. ;)

The HK is on its way in as we speak, and all the professional units (the ones portrayed in PR), as well as many of the conscript units are using it now. The F35, however, won't be phased in for the next five to ten years.
camgirl_17 wrote: Plz correct me if I'm mistaken, I know there's alot of authists on this forum :P
Sure you don't mean autists? Sometimes I wonder... :razz: