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So, um, why is it so easy for insurgents to drive around running down troops with the jeeps? I saw a guy get twenty kills earlier just driving around an FOB running down troops. No skill, no tactics, just 100% complete bullshit. The lousy server-side prediction system of BF2 makes it far too difficult to hit the driver, even when the driving is driving straight towards you; not to mention the recoil of the guns that deviate way too much even up close.

Can't you make it so that hitting an infantry player makes light vehicles take damage. Whatever it takes to get rid of that nonsense.

I agree with this.. It's annoying and something should be done. =\

Just make vehicles realistic, IRL one mag from SAW means that everything inside is dead and that vehicle is useless.
But in PR it might make it smoke a bit...maybe...

Whilst hilarious, the concept is totally ludicrous and I 100% agree something needs to be done about it. A dev once commented that its not possible to incur damage on the vehicle when hitting infantry which is unfortunate.

On the positive side many servers discipline players for it such as NwA and TG. Truly any admin should kick/ban players for it regardless if if its outlined in the rules.

Making the vehicle take dmg from running people over is a good idea, but it will not stop the cars unless they take massive damage. You could make the big buff black marine SAW gunner's physical force the same as a wall, or even better make him an immovable object, 10 times as strong as a brick wall. That way he can defend his quadmembers from the deadly vehicles by just blocking them, sort of like the hulk.

Come on now... You have all seen videos on e-fukt of cars running people over, killing them instantly splattering their brains and limbs all over the curb, not slowing down at all. Just because the Taliban hasn't figured this out (maybe they dont have access to e-fukt in Afghanistan) and uses this tactics against the coalition forces IRL does NOT make it unrealistic. Cars ARE deadly, and running someone over will not stop a car. It most certainly wont stop a pickup truck. I was in Sudan a couple of months ago and alot of people gets roadkilled there every day by the very same Toyotas that are used in this game. They weight more than 2 tonnes! Add to that a crew of 3 and a fucking .50 in the back. That WILL do damage if they run people over.

I am pro-roadkilling, proud of it!

Sorry but the first thing that came in my mind was this :

What are you doing out of cover in Afghanistan ?

No but it rarely happens. IF you play on the big servers like NWA and so on, HoG it doesn't really happen and usually some forbidden it by rules.

Making the cars blow faster and so on or take damage on infantry hit will just unballance the game and ur car would explode after each DUNE you pass... know those dunes when you go over your car smashes on the ground and so on? I think if infantry could damage ur car by touching that thing would be deadly(Even if it's not this way : Why would the car last 20 dune jumps and not last hitting infantry, those cars are tough), not to mention you are being chased and you have to drive thru this alley just to have 3 enemy inf in front, and explode upon hitting them instead of running them over.

Imo it's not worth changing anything about it just because it happened to you once, it's a minority thing.

There is a relevant thread in the Feedback/Suggestions forum. Should be open in a couple of weeks.

Weird.. i think it must be your Ping,if it's high.. even a Automatic rifleman needs to spray around to see where is the Target's hitbox,it's a BF2 engine problem,not PR.. when i play on my country's servers it's a piece of cake to hit people,a example would be: on Asad Khal i was using a M4A1 "IDF medic" and i was inside a barn defending my squad while they build a FOB,a Technical showed up on the road.. i simply selected full auto used less than 15 rounds and they dropped like flies.

Road killing a few guys in the way is all fair game, but circling around a squad with no intention of leaving the vehicle is quite unrealistic imo. I would have to agree that a few well aimed bursts from a saw should dispatch just about any occupant in a light vehicle, but as it stands now a lot of the rounds hit the vehicle and those things seem to endure a decent amount of punishment. It takes practice and the right circumstances to take a driver out of a vehicle, because of this a lot of players find success in road killing. It's quite vanilla and not hard to do.

Zpoilt wrote:

I am pro-roadkilling, proud of it!

Well Sir u must go back to BF2v Plz.

Might it be possible to make parts of the vehicle (windows, doors, etc.) just textures and not "solid" with respect to bullets? I am not well aquainted with the engine, so I have no idea if this is possible, but the average windshield won't do much to stop a rifle bullet, so having "non-solid" bits of cars seems like it would make the occupants more exposed.

Zpoilt wrote:I am pro-roadkilling, proud of it!

Please GTFO of PR and go back to vBF2.

Huh, is this a thing with the new patch ? It was so easy to kill a driver or even the car if you're forced. I'm not talking one guy shooting at the driver (although that isn't too hard either), but when you have a few people spraying at the car it usually stops people trying to roadkill. Also, LAT kits ? You think you don't need those if you're BLUFOR ?

Have to say this whole scrubby rule of 'no ramming' really came to an absurd point, though. One time I was walking in the MIDDLE of a bridge on Al Basrah and the enemy driver just went around me.

On our server our rule has 2 parts.

If you are in a car, truck, techy etc and a enemy is in your direction of travel you can run them over. To save yourself. Thats your choice. You are not allowed to turn round and go back for a second go. Or even drive round a fob running people over.

Some say why not it happens in real life, Well in real life you show me a Nissa Sunny that can take a squad of 6 soilders shooting at it with a variaty of weapons and the driver still be around to tell the tail on a internet forum.

The BF2 game engine dose not allow damage to, Cooling system, Engine block, Tyres, Fuel system, Drive train, Gear box. Do you see where I`m going. Running people over in real life aint the same if the enemy can shoot to disable your car.

So we see driving round getting road kills as a exploite of the game engine there for we do not allow it.

As for the LAT remark. Its a rifleman AT so the opfor can use it. Any squad going to get a cache and there rifleman AT is there just to kill cars than can run them over. Then the opfor get his kit if he misses the guy drives round 4 times kills every one takes the kit kills the APC`s. Just so some BF2v noob can road kill.

Reality V Gameplay.

Just wanted to give you a admins side of why its not allowed o.n some servers

If you walk in the middle of the road/open then you're gonna get run over. How hard is it to move from cover to cover having your squad cover each other? And if the whole squad is dumb enough to all get taken out by the same vehicle then that's the SL's fault for not making you space out more.

PaveHawk wrote:If you walk in the middle of the road/open then you're gonna get run over. How hard is it to move from cover to cover having your squad cover each other? And if the whole squad is dumb enough to all get taken out by the same vehicle then that's the SL's fault for not making you space out more.

How dose the rest of the squad kill the car, with one lucky well aim head shot of the driver. When it is allowed to drive round running you all over.

No such thing as cover when you are unable to restrict or supress the movement of your enemy. Over run by a guy in a car you cannot kill. Or do I mean run over?

PaveHawk wrote:If you walk in the middle of the road/open then you're gonna get run over. How hard is it to move from cover to cover having your squad cover each other? And if the whole squad is dumb enough to all get taken out by the same vehicle then that's the SL's fault for not making you space out more.

Yes because a squad never has to move through open ground.....there is ALWAYS some form of cover available right? Let's not forget the fact that even if you are in cover and the vehicle is circling like a hungry shark, if the driver keeps swerving and giving you little to no time to line up, it's very hard to get a clean shot to the driver.

The situation you have in mind seems to be quite far from what happens in-game. It's quite easy for me to fabricate any scenario I want in which I prevail and anyone arguing against me loses.

Qadis wrote:Huh, is this a thing with the new patch ? It was so easy to kill a driver or even the car if you're forced.

Its always been difficult to kill people in light vehicles. I've seen techie gunners take 10~ shots before, and drivers can be similarly hard to take down.

If you move through open ground you do so at your own risk. Sometimes it's better to take the long way around then the short one. I have no issues shooting people in vehicles. It's even easier to kill them when you have the whole squad trying. Sure they may road kill one or two people. But you eventually kill them revive your people and move on.

On I side note. I'm not advocating this tactic. Like you I feel it's lame. But there are ways to counter it. Work smarter not harder people!