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Will jets fly up side down helpful to evate incoming missile???And each time,In my opinion,your success depend on how lucky you are,if you are on one's tail and he did not aware of it at once,he is a dead man.




Any ACES can share your precious experiences?????

PS:My poor English.................

When you have a missiles on your tail, its best you pop flares and Pull a hard right/left while popping flares. Never go up nor down when you know a missile is on your Arse. Hope this helps.

How i should pop flares????Usually i pop them one by one,almost after 1second one to the next.

I pop them as much as I can when I have a lock, but I normally pop them when I go in and out of the battle so they can't get a lock in the first place.

gaurd502 wrote:I pop them as much as I can when I have a lock, but I normally pop them when I go in and out of the battle so they can't get a lock in the first place.

Too rarely i see jets popping flares when going for strike, even though it's too late when they get lock on you and missiles are OTW. In dogfight aswell when missiles are on the way and you start popping flares, usually it's too late thanks to splash that those missiles make and if there's four of them coming, plane is pretty much trashmetal. With enough luck you can evade those missiles by holding flare release and banking hard. I think pilots in the forum wont share their evasive maneuvers for obvious reasons

If you pop flares turning right then turn left this will put your plane on the other side of the wall of flares. To often I see helis and jets dropping loads of flares then turn away from them. You want to be using them as a curtain between what is trying to lock you and getting the hell out of the area. That works for ground based AA sites.

Air to Air set up a rear look key so you can see where the enemy is and dont stop turning its hard to get a lock if the aircraft that is trying to lock is having to match your turn. Also make sure you know where your friendly AA sites or other aircraft are. I have often using mumble told my SL that im about to fly past a friendly AA with a enemy on my tail. He gets on to the squad who is maning the AA and boom no more enemy jet.

*NwA*Orford wrote:If you pop flares turning right then turn left this will put your plane on the other side of the wall of flares. To often I see helis and jets dropping loads of flares then turn away from them. You want to be using them as a curtain between what is trying to lock you and getting the hell out of the area. That works for ground based AA sites.

Air to Air set up a rear look key so you can see where the enemy is and dont stop turning its hard to get a lock if the aircraft that is trying to lock is having to match your turn. Also make sure you know where your friendly AA sites or other aircraft are. I have often using mumble told my SL that im about to fly past a friendly AA with a enemy on my tail. He gets on to the squad who is maning the AA and boom no more enemy jet.

Too often i got locked and soon be shoot down by long-range missile,this is a trouble.

Fighter jets = DONT FLY LOW, fly above cloud cover hunting for enemy fighter. If you come down for strike, pop flares while doing the bomb run and climb back up.
When behind enemy fighter, lock, fire, AND TURN OFF RADAR... this will ensure 100/100 kill, no matter how much you bank right left, up, down, or disappear (hax) the missle will find you and bring you down... if you lock and shoot while still locking onto the target it will probably miss after he pops he's flares... this tactic is known as "fire and forget". ALWAYS, ALWAYS LOOK BEHIND YOU... you should be looking behind you every 2-3 seconds in order to spot anything on your tell before it is too late. If you do see enemy on your tale pop flares immediately HOWEVER, don't pop them all, if he hasn't locked on you just pop them one by one in succession about 1-2 second intervals, while doing this you have two options if he is on a weird angle you can try to shake him off if he is directly on you it will be very difficult to lose him instead head back to main, you will have the dome of death to protect you, if you follow the 1-2 sec flare pop they will last you until you get back to main which will make him brake off.

Bombers = always fly above 2000 FT and wait there until you are called for a strike, pop flares on every run, if you haven't used your bombs or anything and ran out of flares, LAND AND RESUPPLY don't risk flying without flares. When enemy on your tail, you have advantage since bomber is slower, do same flare tactic as above.

ALWAYS keep an eye on the map to know where friendly AA is as this will save you 20 mins of boredom on the ground.


PS: and this is why I hate SPAM!!! keep chat clear cuz we pilots read that while doing a thousand other things, we ain't just strolling up in the skies.

inlifex wrote:Fighter jets = DONT FLY LOW, fly above cloud cover hunting for enemy fighter. If you come down for strike, pop flares while doing the bomb run and climb back up.
When behind enemy fighter, lock, fire, AND TURN OFF RADAR... this will ensure 100/100 kill, no matter how much you bank right left, up, down, or disappear (hax) the missle will find you and bring you down... if you lock and shoot while still locking onto the target it will probably miss after he pops he's flares... this tactic is known as "fire and forget". ALWAYS, ALWAYS LOOK BEHIND YOU... you should be looking behind you every 2-3 seconds in order to spot anything on your tell before it is too late. If you do see enemy on your tale pop flares immediately HOWEVER, don't pop them all, if he hasn't locked on you just pop them one by one in succession about 1-2 second intervals, while doing this you have two options if he is on a weird angle you can try to shake him off if he is directly on you it will be very difficult to lose him instead head back to main, you will have the dome of death to protect you, if you follow the 1-2 sec flare pop they will last you until you get back to main which will make him brake off.

Bombers = always fly above 2000 FT and wait there until you are called for a strike, pop flares on every run, if you haven't used your bombs or anything and ran out of flares, LAND AND RESUPPLY don't risk flying without flares. When enemy on your tail, you have advantage since bomber is slower, do same flare tactic as above.

ALWAYS keep an eye on the map to know where friendly AA is as this will save you 20 mins of boredom on the ground.


PS: and this is why I hate SPAM!!! keep chat clear cuz we pilots read that while doing a thousand other things, we ain't just strolling up in the skies.

How do I turn it on on the first place lol

1 = radar off, 2 = short range AA, 3 = long range AA, 4 = bombs and other ordinance.

*NwA*Orford wrote:If you pop flares turning right then turn left this will put your plane on the other side of the wall of flares. To often I see helis and jets dropping loads of flares then turn away from them. You want to be using them as a curtain between what is trying to lock you and getting the hell out of the area. That works for ground based AA sites.

Actually, you want this. Popping flares and turning away from them will make the missile go that way. Remember that even if the missile is not locked on to you and passes by you it will detonate due to proximity. This is why when in helo you bank hard left or right and pop flares.

Another point... when firing an AA if you don't want to miss don't lock onto the target... Back in BF2 vanilla the AA missile would not go straight, it would shoot up... not in PR. When aiming you don't have to hit the object directly as long as it goes by it it will detonate

There are my lill secrets... Why do I tell you? cuz I like the challenge

In the end its only luck and the randomness of BF2 that can save you. If an enemy fighter sees you first then you are already dead - there is no way to shake him off your tail.

Air to air combat in PR is first see-first kill.

TheComedian wrote:In the end its only luck and the randomness of BF2 that can save you. If an enemy fighter sees you first then you are already dead - there is no way to shake him off your tail.

Air to air combat in PR is first see-first kill.

Hmmm, not in my experience. If you can see the enemy fighter before he locks on to you (keep in mind you have to make it a habit of looking back every other second) you will always have a chance of either shaking him off or returning to base, once in the dome of death there is nothing he can do.

However, when it comes to ground AA.. .yeah that's pretty much left to the randomness of bf2 ??:

inlifex wrote:Hmmm, not in my experience. If you can see the enemy fighter before he locks on to you (keep in mind you have to make it a habit of looking back every other second) you will always have a chance of either shaking him off or returning to base, once in the dome of death there is nothing he can do.

However, when it comes to ground AA.. .yeah that's pretty much left to the randomness of bf2 ??:

Dome of death is disabled for jets on all maps. Iron Eagle is an exception because you can't fly out of map bounds. An enemy jet can still follow you through the DoD.

If the enemy jet appears to be behind me, I hold the flare button (which means it's pretty much puking flares), turn a bit left or right, and then go straight up. Keep going up until you lose control of your jet. As soon as you get over 5000 ALT, you pretty much shoot like a rocket up in the sky, and you will disappear before the enemy jet gets a lock on you.

Turn the throttle off, wait until you're down at 5000 feet again, and start the engine. (This may take all from 30 seconds too 2 minutes, so make sure you know what the out of bounds time limit is. On Kashan, it's 3 minutes.)

Get control over your jet, and land, as you've probably used all of your flares trying to avoid the enemy jet to get a lock on you.

Situational awareness is everything. No amount of maneuvering or flares can save you if you get caught by surprise.

If you have a joystick, make sure you map the 1, 7, 8, and 9 keys to your POV hat so you can look to your sides and up then back to front, and the c key to one of your fire buttons so you can check your six; if just keyboard, find a good mapping that's easy to access. Use the 8 key view to look where you're going as you bank, and always check your six before and after each maneuver. if you spot the enemy flying towards you in front of you, slam the afterburners and get out of his view; you don't want to risk a turning battle. Only engage if you can get on his tail.

Jolly wrote:Maybe this had already discussed.
Will jets fly up side down helpful to evate incoming missile???And each time,In my opinion,your success depend on how lucky you are,if you are on one's tail and he did not aware of it at once,he is a dead man.




Any ACES can share your precious experiences?????

PS:My poor English.................

After all this to answer your question. In PR if the enemy jet is close enough you cant evade the missile even if he is far is it really random. Anyway best chances for you to survive, is to hit your afterburners on and roll while spamming your flares. This is due to PR missiles have really wide blast radius and with afterburners and with some luck the missile will go to your flares and you are far enough to avoid the splashdmg. DO NOT START turning this will make your plane to stay in the plash area longer and will cause you to be killed. I wont share my helicopter experiences however due the reason duro stated... I just think planes are more luck than skill where atk helos you need some skill to dodge a missile...

P.S What saxoni stated wont save you from the first wave of the missiles those first 4 are the ones that are gonna be the hardest. After that you gonna need alot skill to pull the trick off what he said... so PLS dont try it if you are in public...

TheComedian wrote:In the end its only luck and the randomness of BF2 that can save you. If an enemy fighter sees you first then you are already dead - there is no way to shake him off your tail.

Air to air combat in PR is first see-first kill.

It pretty much is...No tactics or actual skill needed...

Easy, enemy jet is behind me i pull up slow down it gets in front of me, i shoot it down with mg fly upside down over enemy main while showing my middle finger and land in north bunker say hello to my squad m8. Take off land in main straight to bunker vertically.

Consider it done

As a professional PR pilot and l33t dogfighter, i can only suggest one thing...