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Infantry,the basic part,and the most important part in mordern warfare.Almost in every PR game,they are the key to win one battle.
Most of fresh i meet were CSer or CODer,They don't know how to play a game as a team,When contact distant enemy,they shoot at first,and driven by adrenaline，they chase those injured enemy and want a perfect kill!Every time,Experienced enemy were hiding in one corner,wait for those newbies into their trap.All i want to say here is when contact,"Report"first!!!!!!If you have 100% to hunt down that enemy,do it! then report.As a infantry,you are so easy to be killed!!Keep yourself alive is the basic.Calm down when you are engaging,if you get hit.don't try to escape,take a breath and try suppress enemy with your gun and let your teammates to kill the enemy,after that,you might ask medic for healing.
When moving with your mates,always watch your back if you are in the position of the tail.if you are at middle,observe the teammate in front of you,and try to check those corners and roofs or windows that your mate can't see.If your team meet an ambush,calm down!take cover!!try to figure out enemy's position and wait!!When enemy come to check body,let em eat grenade!or if you feel you can't fight with them,disengage!!Then be a ghost to report their position,let your apc to finish them.
When you meet a vehicle with heavy arm,hide!!And report!!Try not to request kits if the apc or tank spot you,just attract them,so your teammate would have a chance to kick enemy's ***.


Information,in my opinion,very important!Keep watching those typing if possible,you'll find something useful!!Last thing, KD is not your mission,your only object is to win this war!High score will be respected!!!
I am not a Godlike or a pro,but i do hope PR to be a Game with teamwork!

I vote on that old suggestion of filling the loading screens with suggestions for tactics and comments directed to newbies such as the above!

Jolly wrote:Calm down when you are engaging,if you get hit.don't try to escape,take a breath and try suppress enemy with your gun and let your teammates to kill the enemy,after that,you might ask medic for healing.

I believe even experienced pr players often make the mistake of yelling for a medic and running around in circles for there lost medic as soon as they have been hit once.... Instead they should keep suppressing, unless the enemy fire stops or your screen goes black and white.

If you got time to yell or even search for the medic that means that your not focusing on removing the cause of your injury, and then your jeopardizing your teammates.

Gracler wrote:I believe even experienced pr players often make the mistake of yelling for a medic and running around in circles for there lost medic as soon as they have been hit once.... Instead they should keep suppressing, unless the enemy fire stops or your screen goes black and white.

If you got time to yell or even search for the medic that means that your not focusing on removing the cause of your injury, and then your jeopardizing your teammates.

The moment someone gets hit, they seem to panic, thinking that if they dont get to the medic right away, theyll never get healed. I know I 'suffer' from this paranoia, as well as just about everyone I've played with so far. A few days ago I was the corpsman in a squad on Fallujah, and every time someone got hit, even slightly, they would sprint over and dive on me.
Cant say I blame them or myself though. Many times you just dont know if the medic will get to you when you need him to, or if he will even respond. I guess the fix here would be having someone be the medic that you know will do the job right.

There is one thing which everybody could try.
Just try survive with 0 deatch at the end of game. Nothing more. And this basic instinct will stop almost every suicide movments. And when you would like do some advance. You have to be so good team to survive. So everybody in team try best for it even newbies

Try to not get out (you and 11 teammates) from Beach Fortification on Barracuda for 2 hours and half... And then be calm while 25 ppl trying to dislodge you as rats

Or 1-2 hours waiting for IED to kill APC....
Crawl for ~1,5 km

Anyway if u report armor for e.g. CAS, have you checked if they have AA around?, or spotting for friendly armor, have u checked does enemy have tow or maybe some patient guys in their tanks....
When you find a problem, try to solve it byself and ur squad, and if not, then call in others...

Yeah, but if there aren't any noobs, who's to kill and laugh at?

Dev1200 wrote:Yeah, but if there aren't any noobs, who's to kill and laugh at?

R-Devs rediscovering the game

elerik wrote:
Just try survive with 0 deatch at the end of game. Nothing more.

Whilst this is a really cool idea, I don't think I'd be able to achieve that. Rushing through the enemy lines is awesome!

Pvt.LHeureux wrote:R-Devs rediscovering the game

You can't heal with the med kit?

-Shouldn't you know that? >_>

I'm a Arma2 Dev.. ;_;

If you've been hit once don't wait around for the guy to finish the job, he's settled his deviation and he knows exactly where you are....Might not be best to run around screaming MEEEDDIIICCC, but if you don't find cover soon you will die.

I too suffer from "medic frenzy", especially if it's a medic I don't know/trust. If you play with a lot of randoms then it's not that uncommon for your medic to allow you to die and not care/see. I guess the OP is trying to impress the importance of patience on the battlefield, something most of the newbies don't get for a while. Let's also not assume that suppression works all that well, especially if the enemy is in cover and already shooting at you.

It could be worse.

Just think, people could be coming over to PR and attempting leet 360 no-scopes for their sniper montage.

Jolly wrote:Calm down when you are engaging,if you get hit.don't try to escape,take a breath and try suppress enemy with your gun and let your teammates to kill the enemy,after that,you might ask medic for healing

A man after my own heart.

So often I have my Squad lined up and firing at an enemy squad (who are pinned down behind cover) and know it's only a matter of time before one of the enemy gets killed and the others smoke and then have to give ground.

So all's fine and dandy, everyone's firing, and i'm looking through my binos at the enemy when I realise there are more rounds coming in than are coming out..

And thenI look at my squad and they are all patching themselves up.. And then one gets headshotted..

"KEEP FIRING I DON'T CARE IF YOU DIE BECAUSE AS A SQUAD YOU WILL WIN."

Inevitably I have to pick up my own gun, which Idon;t like using as an SL because it is an admittance of poor positioning and leadership, and generally with a bit of skill I can keep the enemy behind their cover and pot-shot them.. But inevitably this means I cannot lead my squad, who then do all sorts of batshit stuff in the name of 'staying alive'.

Honestly it is a major gripe.. Can ya tell?


Well said Jolly, I agree on your other points also.

i dont know why everybody hates CS players.
my whole teamplay skills and game reading skills are coming from playing CS.
ofc there are some noobs who jsut play CS public etc, but those guys are usually totally noobs anyway. (i shouldnt forget mentioning CS =/= CSS, because the CSS community just consists out of stupid 14y.o. who think theyre cool when they have 30/10 stats on public)
aiming skills (mine are rather from UT than from CS) arent required that much in PR imo, but sometimes i can tell that i just won a situation because of good aiming.

overall awareness and game-read are essential for winning in PR.

SheepCowPandaBear wrote:Just think, people could be coming over to PR and attempting leet 360 no-scopes for their sniper montage.

I actually did that once.

Mikemonster wrote:A man after my own heart.

So often I have my Squad lined up and firing at an enemy squad (who are pinned down behind cover) and know it's only a matter of time before one of the enemy gets killed and the others smoke and then have to give ground.

So all's fine and dandy, everyone's firing, and i'm looking through my binos at the enemy when I realise there are more rounds coming in than are coming out..

And thenI look at my squad and they are all patching themselves up.. And then one gets headshotted..

"KEEP FIRING I DON'T CARE IF YOU DIE BECAUSE AS A SQUAD YOU WILL WIN."

Inevitably I have to pick up my own gun, which Idon;t like using as an SL because it is an admittance of poor positioning and leadership, and generally with a bit of skill I can keep the enemy behind their cover and pot-shot them.. But inevitably this means I cannot lead my squad, who then do all sorts of batshit stuff in the name of 'staying alive'.

Honestly it is a major gripe.. Can ya tell?


Well said Jolly, I agree on your other points also.

This is what I mean. 1 brave enemy can pin down an entire "cowering in fear" squad and walk up and lop a grenade to finish the job.


Of-course it isn't always best practice to return fire as if you where Chuck Norris himself.

• If a saw got you pinpointed you should not even try to peak around the corner.
• If you where on the move for more than 5 seconds and your being suppressed you should head for cower first...then when your rested you can go from kneeling to standing and return fire. If you can?t kneel behind cower then it gets more risky to try returning fire but it can still be done if the rest of your squad is also doing there job suppressing the enemy.
• If an enemy vehicle got you pinned down or is coming your way you really don't want to give them anything to shoot at... Flanking or retreating is your only option unless if your so lucky to have a AT weapon or support.
• if your medic is "critically wounded" you want to re access the situation and figure out if you can "get him up" safely or you have to fall back with your squad-leader for a new rally point.

The saying.... the best defense is an offense never fails to apply. Just one "brave" enemy can be the end of a cowering squad flipping smoke grenades and dropping patches after taking 1 shot.

Well it's a case of most people in PR don't know how to shoot properly, and the one's that do are leading (most experience). So inevitably when my squad have had their fun rapid-firing at the target 200m away I have to scope in, let the deviation settle, them pop up and supress the enemy SAW.

Inevitably, if you are a good shooter, you can defeat a poor shooter. If you have 3 poor shooters aiming and shooting at you, you can quickly turn it into two..

But as mentioned, ideally I want my 5 poor shooters firing accurately at theirs. Not crawling back off the hill because they just lost 25% health, and thus losing our advantage.

In future I will tell my guys to fire aimed, slow shots, come to mention it.

O finally we are geting to better battle tactic
SAW is alltimes just for surpression. Small round and bigger fire area. And two other men could settle thair deviation and fire precisely. Thay are covered. And other three guys can easly move to flank and fire from flank. But SAW gunner have to know how to use this powerfull weapon. tatatatatatatatatatata isnt efective. better is tatata ..1 - 3 sec.. tatatata ..1 - 3 sec.. tatata ect. You can fire like that almost two minutes without reloading!!!
Btw suppression is for making noise. In noise thay will not see coming granade enemies, or reinforcments or supplying
You know enemy is behind hill. Covering fire doesnt mean "waintg for visual contact" it means. fire to that hill and dont let him look out whats going on. Easy. Effective. Fast advance, using granades and surrpress and most of PR players dont have chance.
For goguapsy and you have chance to have 0 death at the end of game

elerik wrote:There is one thing which everybody could try.
Just try survive with 0 deatch at the end of game. Nothing more. And this basic instinct will stop almost every suicide movments. And when you would like do some advance. You have to be so good team to survive. So everybody in team try best for it even newbies

While I agree with your motive, without more detail this can just encourage camping and timid tactics, not to mention basically barring them from the majority of Insurgent play haha...

To expand on this, and correct me if I am mistaken in my assumption, I would say that one should be as bold and effective as possible in a given role while minimizing exposure... the point being to develop a survivalist mentality- which is a profound departure from the vast majority of stock-FPS play (the very thought of seeing the bic-lighter one-man paratroopers flying Hueys and bailing over remote flags prevents me from ever playing BF2 vanilla again)

DO make aggressive, brutal, decisive, and coordinated assaults with your squad/platoon.

DON'T stand in the street and rock and roll like a pistolero in Dodge City at high noon.

DO fly as aggressively as possible as far as your skill level allows to obfuscate your flight path and avoid AA fire.

DON'T attempt your first street level run on a public server with a full Huey.

DO take opportune shots on high value targets that are unaware of your position when sniping, secondary to your main role as a spotter.

DON'T re-enact Private Jackson's last stand every time you have a scoped weapon.

DO use PR Mumble and in-game voice comms to great effect.

DON'T rage quit because you can't afford a $15 mic and no one has time to read your simple but beautiful sub-dialect in squad chat.

etc