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building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-02 10:47
by Bringerof_D
Hello, i have a new Asus P8Z68-Vpro board w/ i7 2600k. i was wondering if i should just use the on board graphics or put in my old 1gb 9800gt? i am fairly unfamilair with computer hardware.
i've also been told to replace by stock heat sink and fan with an after market. the cooler master hyper 212 plus. any comments on that?
i've already been running this pc for a few days, recently noticed that while gaming the thermometre gadget i installed says i go up to 99 degrees celcius. problem?
Re: building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-02 12:39
by Psyrus
Bringerof_D wrote:Hello, i have a new Asus P8Z68-Vpro board w/ i7 2600k. i was wondering if i should just use the on board graphics or put in my old 1gb 9800gt? i am fairly unfamilair with computer hardware.
Uh... do you plan on gaming with it? You should pair such a high CPU+Motherboard combo with an equally high graphics card IMO (Nvidia 560Ti or AMD HD6950)... the onboard graphics or 9800GT are both a big mismatch with such a high end processor.
Bringerof_D wrote:i've also been told to replace by stock heat sink and fan with an after market. the cooler master hyper 212 plus. any comments on that?
It's a great budget cpu cooler if you're looking into overclocking or want quieter operation.
Bringerof_D wrote:i've already been running this pc for a few days, recently noticed that while gaming the thermometre gadget i installed says i go up to 99 degrees celcius. problem?
You should get that checked out... it shouldn't go NEAR that hot... 75 degrees is I believe their max operating temperature... unless you're talking about the graphics card...?
Re: building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-02 18:44
by Bringerof_D
Psyrus wrote:Uh... do you plan on gaming with it? You should pair such a high CPU+Motherboard combo with an equally high graphics card IMO (Nvidia 560Ti or AMD HD6950)... the onboard graphics or 9800GT are both a big mismatch with such a high end processor.
You should get that checked out... it shouldn't go NEAR that hot... 75 degrees is I believe their max operating temperature... unless you're talking about the graphics card...?
I'm tight on money after the main purchase so i dont have enough for a new graphics card just yet. what i meant was for now would i be better off just using the on board or would attaching my 9800gt give me better results until i get a new one?
as for the temp, i'm talking about the cpu. though i'm not entirely sure thats what the temp actually was. i DLed a temp guage for my desk top just before making this post and ran it while playing WoT and noticed it ran up to ~98 average. the moment i exit the game though it drops to ~45 degrees under 60 seconds.
Re: building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-02 21:09
by Cossack
Yeah, 9800 is better than integrated, so use it till you get new GPU

Re: building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-02 22:12
by whatshisname55
Download and run this program:
Realtemp
Test it with some gaming and if Realtemp says the same temperature, then there's a problem.
Re: building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-02 23:35
by Bringerof_D
whatshisname55 wrote:Download and run this program:
Realtemp
Test it with some gaming and if Realtemp says the same temperature, then there's a problem.
using real temp almost the same results. while gaming it maxes around 98 degrees celcius and the moment i hit exit game it starts to drop. in 20 seconds it drops to ~ 55 degrees average across the 4 cores.
idle is around 42
i currently have 3 fans in total. the stock heat sink and fan for the processor, a 120mm zalman ZM-SF3 fan pushing air in from the front, and a silverstone suscool 81 pushing in from the left side of the case towards the rear of the case.
is my processor likely to be damaged already or will it be ok once i get a better sink and fix w/e the problem is?
Re: building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-03 00:27
by MaSSive
You are possibly missing thermal compound on your CPU / Heatsink. Dismount and reapply. If you do not know how to do it contact support / service.
Re: building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-03 01:05
by whatshisname55
If you built the computer yourself then you should have some spare TIM from the box (and probably know this already), if not then you'll have to buy some. Just clean off the TIM from the CPU and the heatsink. Use some 70% isopropyl to help you wipe the gunk off. Once it's dry, apply just a pea size drop of TIM to the center of the CPU and put the heatsink back on.
Here's a good video guide if you need it.
As for aftermarket coolers, you should get one if you plan to overclock, but otherwise the stock cooler will do just fine.
Re: building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-03 01:59
by Panz0r
Get a cheap used 560 ti/6870
Re: building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-03 03:09
by Bringerof_D
Issue has been resolved. i've installed a new sink. as it turns out the stock heat sink's mounting pins for some reason came loose. the sink was not making full contact with the processor.
as for the gfx card i'm not gonna bother sticking in my 9800 for now. i plan on getting a new card in january and i wont be doing much gaming between now and then.
edit: I was able to play PR on max settings for geometry, textures and lighting, anti aliasing at 2x, and effects on medium. i was unable to do this with my 9800 before on my previous rig
anyways thanks for the assistance. this thread can now be locked.
Re: building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-04 09:47
by Cossack
Well, you was not able to run with your 9800 because everything else was not good. I have 9600GT and I run everything maxed out.
Re: building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-04 12:54
by karambaitos
yeah definitively put your nvida 9800 its miles better than anything that can be integrated
the 9800 isnt that bad of a card TBH
Re: building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-26 06:53
by Bringerof_D
cool thanks, i'll put it back in the next chance i get then. what settings would you recommend i use for anti aliasing? i recall there were some issues with the Nvidia cards were there not?
probably should have asked this before as well but what are your thoughts on sound cards? do you have one or do you use on board?
Re: building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-26 13:00
by Pedz
I use onboard soundcards, the creative soundcards aren't worth anything anymore, and have such bad drivers and compatibility issues, its not worth going for one at all. Especially as not much uses their EAX technology anymore, as its all done within DX10 and 11. So I suggest you save that money (unless you really need those extra ports) and use an onboard one

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Also running Nvidia cards at the moment with AA on x8, no problems yet...
Re: building PC questions
Posted: 2011-12-26 15:54
by Bringerof_D
Pedz wrote:I use onboard soundcards, the creative soundcards aren't worth anything anymore, and have such bad drivers and compatibility issues, its not worth going for one at all. Especially as not much uses their EAX technology anymore, as its all done within DX10 and 11. So I suggest you save that money (unless you really need those extra ports) and use an onboard one

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Also running Nvidia cards at the moment with AA on x8, no problems yet...
cool, i was just curious about possible advantages of having one. my ASUS board already has more audio ports than i need. I might consider rigging up my work space with a better speaker system. I have a perfect little nook which i have my chair backed into so i could totaly get some surround sound speakers and make it like a pod for myself.