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for US forces, in PR not IRL, which weapon has more explosive power, a larger kill radius, i mean which is more deady per round--the 25mm HEAT automatic cannon or 40mm automatic grenade launcher? does , if any, round penetration of the 25mm HEAT over the 40mm grenade laucher matter?

40mm does more damage, larger splash, just larger everything. Don't really know what you're getting at by round penetration in PR terms? The rounds explode on contact and do splash damage, they don't go through things, except at times wire fence if you set up correctly.

AFAIK the 40mm has to have a direct hit to damage armour in PR.

I personally prefere the 25mm because it allows me to round-to-target quicker than the 40mm. The 25mm also has superior range and allows you to engage fast moving targets, at close range or distance. However, due to the arch of the 40mm rounds, this allows the gunner a degree of 'indirect' fire onto targets and in some cases the gunner is able to lob rounds over cover.
I also consider myself a bit of an ACE with the 25mm, and can quite easily distinguish friend-foe-civilian-bush-rifle-AT at extreme ranges (you know you play too much PR when..you can identify a player's faction and class by the posture of his character model!). If I see an insurgent rush by a door way, the 25mm wont keep me waiting for impact.

But my gfx settings are too low to observe round impacts of the 40mm at any useful distance, so I find using it rather difficult anyway!

...mongol...

[R-MOD]Mongolian_dude wrote:(you know you play too much PR when..you can identify a player's faction and class by the posture of his character model!)

Do the same, and then I think 'no no, that has to be a *insert kit here* due to the way he moves his body when he runs, or the way the torso arches'
But yea, I guess the 40mm does more damage, but its harder to operate.

Hm u are talking of apache and havok main gun?!? Like they said, 25mm have more ammo, less damage, and 40 mm more damage less ammo. IRL i will go with more ammo, but in PR life of CAS is short and i do not remember anyone who was out of main gun ammo, so in my opinion Havok with 300 rounds of 40mm + 16 HF is way better then apache with 8HF and 1000 rounds of 25mm.

Ca6e wrote:Hm u are talking of apache and havok main gun?!? Like they said, 25mm have more ammo, less damage, and 40 mm more damage less ammo. IRL i will go with more ammo, but in PR life of CAS is short and i do not remember anyone who was out of main gun ammo, so in my opinion Havok with 300 rounds of 40mm + 16 HF is way better then apache with 8HF and 1000 rounds of 25mm.

Hmm...
As i know, both apache and havok have 30mm gun.
And this discussion about 25mm gun, mounted on apc\ifv and 40mm gl(maybe mk19).

Personally, i don't think that more caliber->more power. IRL, if you compare XM25 and M203, won't be so much difference for target, which grenade used.

rPoXoTauJIo wrote: Personally, i don't think that more caliber->more power. IRL, if you compare XM25 and M203, won't be so much difference for target, which grenade used.

Depends on what you mean by 'power'. 25mm is a smaller round and will fly further, more power? 40mm is a bigger round and has a larger kill/wound radius, more power?

the 40mm has a high overall volume, so it blows up with a lot more releasd energy, asumming the explosive compound in both projectiles is similar (it is). Almost certain this is true for Pr. Why not test it yourself, op?
The MK-19 isn't in PR enough. Pic related.


also, PR's strykers aren't dressed up enough, but that's another unrelated problem.

chrisweb89 wrote:The rounds explode on contact and do splash damage, they don't go through things, except at times wire fence if you set up correctly.

no, the 25mm HEAT i know for a fact penetrates some things like mud buildings. dont think 40mm nades do though.

i take LAV over AAV anyday in PR.

40mm that's a great pic. Also i'd love to see deployable traffic cones in PR.

25mm is better in short range and long range engagements, and its better againts fast moving tagrets, all because its shorter flight time. Also it has shorter arming distance IIRC.

40mm is better in medium range engagements, simply because it delivers bigger punch and 25mm advantages does not matter so much at this distance.

-lucky

In PR the aav is better for support because of its huge amount of nades, bigger blast radius, slower aiming and slower speed. the ability for it to shell an area constantly is nice.

but the lav is better overall because of speed of movement, aiming speed, coax and heat at same time, travel time of 25mm, shooting through walls, mobility ( it doesn't get stuck on a curb) and lower profile.

anybody know any other advantages the AAV has over the LAV in pr? i might be biased, it just seems a little one sided...

rPoXoTauJIo wrote:Hmm...
As i know, both apache and havok have 30mm gun.
And this discussion about 25mm gun, mounted on apc\ifv and 40mm gl(maybe mk19).

Personally, i don't think that more caliber->more power. IRL, if you compare XM25 and M203, won't be so much difference for target, which grenade used.

Yep my bad, was thinking of cobra, wrote apache, but anyway if the granade use the same expolosive, then is 40 mm much more powerful. Radius of killing in 40mm is up to 5 meters, and wounding up to 10m, 25 mm have smaller radius but more rounds per min. So i guess 25mm will be better use against LAV-s, moving targets,.. 40mm will be for infantry, slow targets,... Anyway if u get shot by any of those, u are dead, so run

Since mobility was mentioned, I dont think the LAV has the seafaring capabilities that have been displayed in game. From what I can remember, the LAV was designed to traverse fords and other water-based obstacles, but is not suitable for actual Seafaring. The AAV, on the other hand, was designed for exactly this purpose- transporting and supporting troops engaged in beach assault.

However, in PR (and since the days of BF2) the LAV has fulfilled the role of the AAV and has been granted seafaring capabilities.


...mongol...