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Description:
Awhile ago this suggestion was implemented. It hasn't been applied to the BMP-3, you can immediately exit and request any kit. Might want to check if its the same on any other APC's as well.

Steps to Reproduce:
Bail from the BMP-3 (it was on fire, doubt that makes a difference) and request a kit, unlike other APC's where you have to wait around 30 seconds or so.

Tested On:
Burning Sands 64

Works for MTLB and BTR60 on Muttrah too; but I have not tried requesting while it is on fire.

That's a good point, I did request the kit whilst it was on fire. There should be a delay in any situation though.

You can always select a kit after you leave your apc without delay.

Source: I do a lot of APC'ing.

That's retarded then, see my suggestion for reasons why.

are you sure it got implemented? i know that you cant request a kit directly after leaving a mortar. but i am not sure about an apc.

By the way, what is Black Sand?

There is Black gold and Burning Sands...

Burning sands rather, my grammar has been pretty garbage as of late

WeeD-KilleR wrote:are you sure it got implemented? i know that you cant request a kit directly after leaving a mortar. but i am not sure about an apc.

It was implemented on certain APCs, namely the Warrior.

I usually get a bondage kit and my Co driver/gunner gets rimmed whenever we have a good ol' bumming on the battlefield.

And I usually grab a HAT to get revenge. Armor crewman to trained HAT or combat medic in an instant..

dtacs wrote:Description:
Awhile ago this suggestion was implemented.

I don't recall seeing it in the patch changelist... I could be wrong though.

I misread the almost unanimous reception from it then.

Factually there is no reason why it shouldn't be implemented. Its a suggestion out of logic in pursuit of realism and positive gameplay, not opinion.

I usuallly just grab medic, patch myself up and heal my crew member.

Then we just go rambo till we die lol

dtacs wrote:Factually there is no reason why it shouldn't be implemented. Its a suggestion out of logic in pursuit of realism and positive gameplay, not opinion.

I wasn't disagreeing with the premise or it's plausibility, merely your assumption that it was already implemented.

Countless things are left out on changelist every patch as the one we see is the one with out indents, and highly edited. This could be one of those.

But I stand by what I said - its implemented on certain APC's but not others. Whether or not it has something to do with layers or maps specifically, I wouldn't know.

Going down the road that it actually was not added in, what possible reason is there that it shouldn't be?

You might be mistaken for the drop kit deal, not sure why they would change this though. Being able to request medic/SL from an APC is basically like salvaging the gear before it blows, I assume if you get out in time the idea is that you can go and save some gear before the wreck explodes. Let's also keep in mind every vehicle death is PR is absolutely going to blow up no exceptions, while in reality many things can go wrong basically destroying the vehicle but it doesn't blow sky high.

You have to think about the bigger picture. If there is a tank firing AP rounds at an APC, the immediate thought of the crew is to get out and get cover if they aren't already dead. Every reason for this is listed in my suggestion but I'll list them here if people somehow don't understand how stupid, gamey and blatantly unrealistic this is;

• If a vehicle is on fire, there is serious injury to the crew/passengers or there is risk of death by staying in it, they would not be able to get weaponry that is usually carried around in an APC, such as spare weaponry or Anti-tank equipment, such as an AT4 (which to my knowledge is usually carried in the back of a Stryker)
• An APC crew cannot instantly become a sniper team or have access to Claymores. There are many other examples of this, but its mostly common sense.
• It also detracts from game-play as the squad which requests these kits can easily overcome an obstacle (in this case, razorwire) and take much-needed kits away from other squads which may need them.

If you are an armor crewman and your vehicle is on fire, your commander and gunner are screaming in pain from the shrapnel up and down their bodies, your immediate thought isn't to get a rifle and become a trained sniper or sapper. Down to brass tacks this is common sense.

Do you have any proof it is implemented on any APC's?

Granted the ability to request specialized kits is over the top but grabbing medical and radio equipment would obviously be a huge priority. Obviously in the real situation everyone is scrambling to escape the wreckage, but can we not assume there is someone qualified to provide medical aid to those in need? If you want to argue against realism on that aspect I would point out infantry having the exact same tool at their disposal and it seems everyone in PR is a trained necromancer.

I do agree it is lame having the ability to request AA/AT from a burning vehicle but the less specialized kits are what I am concerned about. A crewman should be able to request basic kits (Medic/Rifleman/SL) but I agree on your stance against vengeful HAT kits. If the infantry blast an APC at 500 meters they should expect the crew to survive and heal up, much as the APC that blasts infantry 500 meters away knows those infantry guys will be revive very soon. If it's good for one side it should apply to the other imo.

I also believe the 30 second rule would screw over infantry squads who catch a lift and dismount in the clear wanting to request a different kit. They would require the APC to loiter for another 30 seconds which is very likely a death sentence unless well away from the frontlines.

I have seen some pictures in which Russian troops just strap the gears onto the top of BTRs...

Quite easy to just grab those and then jump off(considering they already sit on top...).