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[Weapon] Flak 18 (8.8 cm) [WIP](WW2)
Posted: 2012-08-06 21:45
by Ratface
Hi guys! I started this yesterday when AD said he needed a flak 88 for PN. Im using max 2012, but I've been told that wont be much of an issue. Here's what I've got right now, I'm using references from FH2, CoH, as well as random internet pics.
Tell me what you think, this will be my first model done outside of the class room
And yes, it's very WIP atm, but I hope to have it done soonish this week
EDIT: Due to an error during upload, I have deleted and reuploaded the Flak. Not sure what happened or why. Here is the new p3d addres:
http://p3d.in/aX3Yj
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-06 22:36
by rushn
dont use references from COH
a lot of their stuff is not sized properly
Pictures should be your best bet
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-06 22:47
by Spush
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-06 23:24
by Ratface
Spush, you sir are amazing
And yea, I know a lot of their things are a little off, so I'll focus on using pics and a FH2 photo that AD provided me
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-07 05:46
by =HCM= Shwedor
Why make a Flak 18 instead of a Flak 36? The 36 would offer flexibility in the future if PN ever wanted to make towable Flak guns.
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-07 05:50
by AfterDune
Na, we won't have towable vehicles anyways.
I'm happy with either model though.
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-07 08:05
by Ratface
I dont think it would be too hard to convert it from one to the other, just have to modify it and add the wheels to the front and back and take off the side supports. On this atm im planning on making one without the shield and then also adding the shield on so we have some variety
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-07 08:19
by AfterDune
Weren't they pretty much always equipped with a gunshield during this time of the war? WW2 fanatics will know I'm sure.
Of course you can make one with and without the shield.
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-07 11:31
by sweedensniiperr
[R-DEV]AfterDune wrote:Weren't they pretty much always equipped with a gunshield during this time of the war? WW2 fanatics will know I'm sure.
Of course you can make one with and without the shield.
Well I think it depends on the initial purpose of the gun. For example, a few 88 is placed far in from the normandy beaches for AA purpose, without shield. When the allied pushed up clos they turned the guns horizontal and used them as AT.
TL;DR Don't think there's anyone was used more than the other.
However I think the grey one without shield is the most badass.
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-07 12:47
by sharpie
You would find Flak 18s without shields mostly in North Africa, because that was around the time they were used as AT guns. Also, no shield made it lighter and easy to tow.
But as Alex stated above, most without shields are AA, most with are AT, but the Flak 18 was originally an AA gun.
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-07 17:40
by rodrigoma
it is good to know someone is going to do this, i love the 88 and i dont think the normandy mod could be without it XD
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-07 19:20
by simeon5541
Looks good for now,
this could be used by Militia too !
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-07 19:59
by =HCM= Shwedor
Playing with the ones in FH2, I personally hate the gunshields. They block the line of sight so much to the point they are completely useless against aircraft, not to mention the FH2 guys always put them under those f'ing camo nets. Are these ones going to be dual purpose (given the option of using AA or AT rounds)? The gunshield/camo net combo may be a good idea if you want to limit a particular gun position to ONLY hitting tanks to prevent it from being OP.
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-07 21:01
by Ratface
Here's some pics from day 2, let me know what you think.
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-07 21:03
by sweedensniiperr
=HCM= Shwedor wrote:Playing with the ones in FH2, I personally hate the gunshields. They block the line of sight so much to the point they are completely useless against aircraft, not to mention the FH2 guys always put them under those f'ing camo nets. Are these ones going to be dual purpose (given the option of using AA or AT rounds)? The gunshield/camo net combo may be a good idea if you want to limit a particular gun position to ONLY hitting tanks to prevent it from being OP.
Not speaking for AD but, it will probably not be used as an AA-gun. However I hope to see both versions in-game, shielded and without.
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-07 22:53
by ice_killer
where is the wireframe?
Re: [WIP] Flak 88
Posted: 2012-08-07 23:33
by Ratface
Re: [WIP] Flak 18 (8.8 cm)
Posted: 2012-08-08 06:55
by AfterDune
Making good progress, Ratface. Nice
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I'll give the cannon AP and HE rounds probably, people can fire at tanks, or aim up and shoot airplanes if they want, it's up to them really.
Btw, I renamed the thread to "Flak 18 (8.8 cm)" as that's what it is called actually
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Re: [WIP] Flak 18 (8.8 cm)
Posted: 2012-08-08 07:58
by Pvt.LHeureux
We have the famous Flak 38 to be used against planes guys. Germans will be able to build it around FOB like AAs in PR.
US will have the M51 quad .50 cal
