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A problem that you noted was that new players aren't received well by server admins. I wholeheartedly agree. This happens because new players are frustrating to deal with, they tend to **** up everything they try to do.

Instead of blaming the Newb, I blame the fact that there isn't a platform that consolidates the multitude of articles and lessons teaching the basic and advanced skills that us veteran players utilize.

I came up with a structure for a website that did just that. I think the structure is really intuitive , easy to find the info that both new and veteran players would want. I made about 40 buttons too...

The site is ready to be built, but there's the problem, I don't know how to code. While I intend on learning to code, that won't happen for some time and the PR community could use this site now!

If you want to help, make a post on this thread. While I haven't put enough effort in getting a team together for this project, I haven't gotten a positive reception when I have asked around for help. If you guys want the PR community to prosper then stop expecting that someone else will do it and make some actions yourself.

Cheers,
Bam

Whilst I agree with you about the idea of having all of the info veterans use in one good page, the simple fact of the matter is that many of the mistakes that new players tend to make can very often be recitfied by either a) reading the manual or b) joining an infantry squad with 4/5 players already in it (that look like they have a decent structure, with at least an officer and a medic in it!) and simply telling everyone that you are new, just like how i did. Granted, it took me a good week or so to get my first kill, but I stuck with everything, firing at what i was told to fire at, building what i was told to build and going where i was told to go.

However, you may want to put all of your findings in a PDF file and PM one of the DEVs about it, they may want to release it as an annex to the manual for 1.0, or maybe sticky it in the Gen. Discussion thread.

But good idea though, and i'm happy to find that many of the people described in the existing topic tend to be a small minority. Most of the players i've found on PR tend to be very welcoming and encouraging to new players.

When I first used to SL a year or so ago I used to ask if anyone was new.. Funny but it doesn't occur to me now, I tend to think everyone has been playing for ages and knows what to do. Will bear that in mind..

I have got a solution for this: Light Infantry, everyone a rifleman except you and that rare experienced guy. So you can skip the kit part and focus on mumble or VOIP. However if they don't respond at all.... well I would still kick them.

I want to learn things to new people, but I expect some respect from them and that is often what they lack. They think age is important, it is not. I have seen some great 14 year olds leading squads with maximum effect and I have seen 30 year olds failing every time. New people don't know this and as soon as they hear that I am younger or the same age they refuse to listen and try to experiment.

I'm an admin and there's clearly a difference on how you deal with newbies or just people who try destroy other peoples experience.
Usually if there's a newbie we tell him to got our website read through mumble guide and blabla.
When they are in my squad I do the same and when I got into PR 3 years ago people supported me all the time.

Good idea with the websitee, if it's really that good go for it!

Microwaife wrote:I'm an admin and there's clearly a difference on how you deal with newbies or just people who try destroy other peoples experience.
Usually if there's a newbie we tell him to got our website read through mumble guide and blabla.
When they are in my squad I do the same and when I got into PR 3 years ago people supported me all the time.

Good idea with the websitee, if it's really that good go for it!

well telling some one to basically quit the game for now and read a manual isnt that much help

learning by doing! I try to explain everything to them while we do it. Obviously basics first like not taking sniper/hat kit etc. although newbies dont know how to request kits anway at first

I learnt how to play PR my spending all my time on youtube watching videos.
Watched about a years worth of gameplay from hashhead1971 before I even played PR.

I learnt by playing in a coop server for about 3 months before I felt like I could effectively play PvP. It seemed to work, I rarely never know what to do.

If the new generations of PR players are not included, then PR will die and run its course much quicker as a result. For the sake of your own future gameplay, take that time to help someone out.


...mongol...

In server if you Want ? team play mixed the team , n? all team in one faction.
Yesterday i see ? lot of team on chinese and Only FFA in other faction .
How They Like this game in this condition.

I was tough by a friend, who played PR for like 5 years now. I was on and out on PR from 0.85 or so, didn't bother much at that time as I was young kid and was in for arcade games. Came back 0.91 or something - Started playing with my friend on Co-op servers for a 1 month or 2 then joined Project Reality Tournament. Got the luxury to get basic training and full understanding of teamwork and team cohesion from Onil and Ulysses who were my officers. After that joined OD-S and on later stage SRF All in all, got best training and experience than I expected.

I happen to be a horrible elitist, but I support and applause to person who dedicated his time to help new comers. Keep up the work

/CC

When i first joined it was just insnae and overwelming, even after playing co-op servers and watching tutorials and reading the manual (for a good 2 weeks before joining a PvP) yet jumping out the helicopter and coming under fire in a forest really did make me realise i knew fuck all about communication, i knew HOW to use my kit but never taught for mumble.

Thankfully our SL was understanding and used normal squad chat to talk to me until we made it out alive and took the time teaching me mumble, that was my biggest learning curve if im honest with you so i just ask in bf2 if any of my squad doesnt have mumble and will organise the squad then take them a side and give them a crash course, cos once they got mumble people are a lot more willing to help them!

HunterMed wrote:well telling some one to basically quit the game for now and read a manual isnt that much help

learning by doing! I try to explain everything to them while we do it. Obviously basics first like not taking sniper/hat kit etc. although newbies dont know how to request kits anway at first

I won't tell them to quit the game. I just tell them where to fing help and tips and blabla. They still play in my squad until they leave if they want to.

The problem about directing them to the manual is that the manual is a cluster of information. It's not easy to absorb that information and put it to use in-game.

I might taking a programming course in the next semester or so... hopefully I'll be able to do this project myself.

People learn by example. Consider if you are unskilled in this game you are referred to as a retarded newbie and told to read the manual, and sometimes kicked from the server. This is great because then he/she will want to come back to the server and be treated this way again and again.

If you are skilled you make a squad and lock it and invite all your "skilled" friends in and laugh at how stupid the newbies are. If you die chances are you'll get teamswitched and then curiously notice that all the clan people are on the same side.. hmm?

In reality you should give people a chance to be in your squad and try and show them the way. For some this game is tough to learn. What you are a gifted gamer and were perfect the first game? Nonsense. When I first started playing nearly 6 years ago I never saw so many people treated with such disrespect as I do now. It wasn't RTM it was "come over here, I'll show you" The manual doesn't even scratch the surface. Hands on is the best way.

The new person you are helping could end up being a very good player a good friend and valuable asset to the community. It's not always about you