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A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-04 06:34
by RyanParsons7
Hi, PR fans. I have been working for the past couple of days getting a real updated wikia site up and going. I have worked out weapon tables and kit tables and it's growing at a steady pace with me doing all the work.

You can find the wikia site here: ProjectReality Wiki

I am currently doing the very time consuming task of filling all the kit tables on each kit page, the currently finished kit pages are: Pilot, Crewman, Officer, Sniper and the Anti-Tank. You can find all the kit pages by clicking Kits in the portals section at the bottom of the main page.

I am aiming for each weapon to have their own page dedicated to explaining the origins of the weapon, how it should be used, detailing damage and range and allowing anyone to edit the page to add their own infomation or opinion on the weapon.

This page is what I am hoping each weapon's page will look like: M16A4 - ProjectReality Wiki

Vehicles are going to be added after kits and weapons have been finished but if you want to make a page adding some information on a certain vehicle, you are welcome to do so.


I know there has been at least 2 other wikia sites for PR but they have been abandoned completely

I welcome any sort of constructive criticism for the site and I hope you can take some time to help out with some of the pages.

Thanks alot!

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-04 06:53
by waldov
Nice though id probably change the background pictures.

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-04 06:56
by RyanParsons7
waldov wrote:Nice though id probably change the background pictures.
I did that in photoshop in 5 minutes just to make it look PRish but I will work on something better in the future.

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-04 07:06
by godfather_596
We need a nice wiki with detailed weapon stats and strategies and advice for usage. This would be a really useful project to do with what I think is an acceptable work load.
It can be something like this:
Knight's Cross Holders - Company of Heroes Wiki - Relic Entertainment's most acclaimed RTS
It'll have a basic introduction, a general description of game play stats, ease of usage, tips for recoil control etc.....

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-04 07:08
by 40mmrain
I read your crewman article. I dont really understand why you thought including your advice on why you should not take a crewman kit when requesting a kit to dig with.

Firstly, opinion on ingame tactics isnt really the object of a wiki, it's supposed to be about facts. Secondly, it's just wrong. If youre have 100 rifleman kits, and bags on the ground it allows the enemy to easily resupply, have as many incendiaries as they need, and such. Especially against insurgents it's stupid to leave riflemen kits lying around, because then they can actually get rid of your crates and assets.

The icons for all the items in a kit's inventory for every faction is nice, but needs to be minimized, as in a part of some kind of menu that allows you to view just one faction at a time, it gets in the way of any text right now

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-04 07:15
by Mineral
Nice work so far. But yeah, keep it neutral :p

Indeed there are too many wiki 's already that are half done.
Fallujah West - Project Reality Wiki
http://www.wargamer-project.de/wgpwiki/PR(so far the best one!)
Project Reality Mod Wiki
Project Reality Wiki

There was once an official wiki being made by the community and later by the PR team I think.
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr ... guide.html

But you need to ask the PR team for the status on that. I think our best bet is to get the combined community effort to finish that one,since it would be build into this website it would be the best solution. Specially after 1.0, so it can replace the manual too in a way. These free wiki hosts are just spamming adds and don't really have a nice interface at all. The Wikia site host is also not using the wikipedia API, which is by far the best one to use for this.

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-04 07:30
by RyanParsons7
40mmrain wrote:I read your crewman article. I dont really understand why you thought including your advice on why you should not take a crewman kit when requesting a kit to dig with.

Firstly, opinion on ingame tactics isnt really the object of a wiki, it's supposed to be about facts. Secondly, it's just wrong. If youre have 100 rifleman kits, and bags on the ground it allows the enemy to easily resupply, have as many incendiaries as they need, and such. Especially against insurgents it's stupid to leave riflemen kits lying around, because then they can actually get rid of your crates and assets.

The icons for all the items in a kit's inventory for every faction is nice, but needs to be minimized, as in a part of some kind of menu that allows you to view just one faction at a time, it gets in the way of any text right now
I completely agree with the 1 faction at a time with the kit loadouts, I am currently trying to get one of my friends to work on a infobox template that is collapsed at the page load and will only show the faction flag and the name, that will have a [Show] button next to it.

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-04 07:45
by Nate.
Please make the background bright!

like that, but leave the vegetables out ;)
Healthy Recipes Wiki

I really like the idea of a community-wide Wiki.
Imo It may also contain ingame-tactics, all the guides that were made in youtube and the PR Forums, a lot of tips, a beginner's guide and so on..

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-04 08:06
by RyanParsons7
Got the collapsed kit tables done, you can check it out here: Sniper - ProjectReality Wiki

One thing I will have to reupload new faction flags that are the same dimensions to make everything look neat.

EDIT: Done the flag dimensions looks great!: http://projectreality.wikia.com/wiki/Sniper

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-04 13:38
by Vapourstreak
RyanParsons7 wrote:Got the collapsed kit tables done, you can check it out here: Sniper - ProjectReality Wiki

One thing I will have to reupload new faction flags that are the same dimensions to make everything look neat.

EDIT: Done the flag dimensions looks great!: Sniper - ProjectReality Wiki
Give me the dimensions and specs of where pics are visible, and I can whip up a background for you.

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-04 14:09
by saXoni
The USMC's HAT doesn't get an M4 with ACOG, he get's a regular M4 with iron sights.

:)

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-04 14:27
by Gracler
No disrespect to your work, but to give my opinion why not use the original Wikipedia site that is free of banner commercials (except there own advertisements) If there is one thing that distracts me when reading info or guides it is 200 extra banners that i have to scroll through and avoid clicking.

Is Wikipedia not available in all country's or why did you chose this particular site?

And like already mentioned specific tactics don't really belong inside a wiki...

To give feedback on your explanation about sniper I see several things that I would change.

"The sniper kit in PR is one of the most powerful anti-infantry kits in the game, being very rare at only a default 2 per team they provide excellent support for fellow team members by being able to effectively shoot much further than the FOW (Fog of War) and eliminate key enemy targets such as MG Gunners, Cache destroyers, TOW Operator, Commander ect."

Several things pushing the limit of the real deal with it. all infantry kits have there powers and disadvantages and the sniper kit is no different. Good at long rang... bad at medium or close range. This gives it the statistics of most powerful at long range, most weak at shorter ranges, hardly grants it the title of one of the most powerful anti-infantry weapons overall.
2nd thing is that default kit limit is not 2. it is 2 maximum and 0 minimum depending on the amount of players on the server. Also you write that it can shoot further than the Fog of war... well if you can't see your target how is 1 bullet going to make a difference? sounds like something border-lining an exploit.

Cache destroyers... i thing I would name it cache attackers if anything... but never mind :) also instead of Commander i would chose the word officers since your more likely to run into a Yeti than an enemy commander :D

The rest is fine, although It should be mentioned that a Sniper can be his own squad-leader and can have a spotter/medic with him and use his radio to call in enemy targets and artillery support etc.



sorry if i'm being harsh, but i guess it is because you make the sniper kit sound like a COD sniper, which is the last thing it is intended for.

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-04 22:43
by RyanParsons7
saXoni wrote:The USMC's HAT doesn't get an M4 with ACOG, he get's a regular M4 with iron sights.

:)
Thanks for pointing that out, when I create the kit tables I have to find the exact file name I thought I uploaded it as m4.png, but i actually never uploaded the iron sight variant. It's fixed now.

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-04 22:49
by RyanParsons7
Gracler wrote:No disrespect to your work, but to give my opinion why not use the original Wikipedia site that is free of banner commercials (except there own advertisements) If there is one thing that distracts me when reading info or guides it is 200 extra banners that i have to scroll through and avoid clicking.

Is Wikipedia not available in all country's or why did you chose this particular site?

And like already mentioned specific tactics don't really belong inside a wiki...

To give feedback on your explanation about sniper I see several things that I would change.

"The sniper kit in PR is one of the most powerful anti-infantry kits in the game, being very rare at only a default 2 per team they provide excellent support for fellow team members by being able to effectively shoot much further than the FOW (Fog of War) and eliminate key enemy targets such as MG Gunners, Cache destroyers, TOW Operator, Commander ect."

Several things pushing the limit of the real deal with it. all infantry kits have there powers and disadvantages and the sniper kit is no different. Good at long rang... bad at medium or close range. This gives it the statistics of most powerful at long range, most weak at shorter ranges, hardly grants it the title of one of the most powerful anti-infantry weapons overall.
2nd thing is that default kit limit is not 2. it is 2 maximum and 0 minimum depending on the amount of players on the server. Also you write that it can shoot further than the Fog of war... well if you can't see your target how is 1 bullet going to make a difference? sounds like something border-lining an exploit.

Cache destroyers... i thing I would name it cache attackers if anything... but never mind :) also instead of Commander i would chose the word officers since your more likely to run into a Yeti than an enemy commander :D

The rest is fine, although It should be mentioned that a Sniper can be his own squad-leader and can have a spotter/medic with him and use his radio to call in enemy targets and artillery support etc.



sorry if i'm being harsh, but i guess it is because you make the sniper kit sound like a COD sniper, which is the last thing it is intended for.
Well Gracier, I have never seen ads in years due to a little simple plugin for web browsers called AdBlock Plus.

I know alot of the details I wrote down in the kit pages are pretty stupid in most parts, I wanted to write as much as possible before coming off, just to full up the kit pages. The kit pages are now fully editable so if you or anyone else would like to edit or add anything, you are free to do so.

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-05 00:03
by RyanParsons7
Vapourstreak wrote:Give me the dimensions and specs of where pics are visible, and I can whip up a background for you.
Thanks, heres a example board of what is visable (Black is not visable) : http://i.imgur.com/h0mtiVB.jpg

The file size needs to be below 150kB and any resolution above 720px would be good.

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-05 01:48
by ComradeHX
Looks nice; but are you working with devs secretly to get a version of wiki ready for v1.0 official release?

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-05 02:07
by saXoni
ComradeHX wrote:Looks nice; but are you working with devs secretly to get a version of wiki ready for v1.0 official release?
Good point. I guess you should postpone the work until v1.0 is out, unless of course you are in contact with the developers.

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-05 02:13
by Psyrus
Personally, I would change the color scheme to match the PR website, or at least a regular black/white scheme. The black and blue burns my eyes :)

Re: A Proper Project Reality Wikia

Posted: 2013-06-05 03:54
by RyanParsons7
ComradeHX wrote:Looks nice; but are you working with devs secretly to get a version of wiki ready for v1.0 official release?
I wish, but no.