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light gaming laptop, better options?

Posted: 2013-06-12 17:03
by ComradeHX
I found this on-sale.
IdeaPad Y400 14" Laptop | Shop | Lenovo | (CA)
Screensize is not a huge problem because I have 1080p tv and big enough monitor to hook the laptop onto.

On sale for about $800...good buy or is there any better(better performance for same price, not just better performance since that would be obvious)?

Anyone have suggestions on gaming laptop(this time price can be up to $1200) that is NOT alienware?

Re: light gaming laptop, better options?

Posted: 2013-06-13 05:18
by LITOralis.nMd
Almost certain Lenovo Canada does not ship internationally, especially not back to China. If the notebook ever has problem, Lenovo makes you pay international shipping fees both ways... My brother owned a Lenovo when a student in Europe, was huge hassle when his T series notebook died.

You can't find a Lenovo laptop in China? The Y400 series are assembled in China.

Not much difference between the GTX750m and GTX660m btw.

The MSI whitebooks are a really good option. You buy the notebook, the CPU, (thermal paste) the RAM, and HDD/SDD, and OS yourself, install it yourself. Save lots of money. You can do some mods, like lap the CPU and GPU, buy better thermal paste, add copper heatsinks, etc.

I just priced out a MSI whitebook for myself, it came out to buy from cheapest online retailer in US, $1450, to buy parts and build myself came out to $1200, and I'd get better parts.

http://cn.msi.com/
At least they have an authorized service center in country:
China
Address: No.88 East Qianjin Road Kunshan Cit y, Jiangsu Province, China, 215300

(Don't lap the GPU if you want to maintain the warranty)

Re: light gaming laptop, better options?

Posted: 2013-06-13 05:27
by LITOralis.nMd
Also, MSI has one prebuilt that might do you well:

MSI GE40 14" HD + Gaming Notebook Computer, Black/Red, Intel Core i7-4702MQ 2.2GHz, 750GB HDD, 8GB RAM, Windows 8 Home Premium
SKU: MSIC008US
MFR: GE40 2OC-008US

Re: light gaming laptop, better options?

Posted: 2013-06-13 11:01
by Cossack
I have HP Pavilion DV6 7080se, pretty bad *** handling everything ;) But its a bit outdated, so look in better options ;)

Re: light gaming laptop, better options?

Posted: 2013-06-13 14:56
by ComradeHX
[R-COM]LITOralis.nMd wrote:Almost certain Lenovo Canada does not ship internationally, especially not back to China. If the notebook ever has problem, Lenovo makes you pay international shipping fees both ways... My brother owned a Lenovo when a student in Europe, was huge hassle when his T series notebook died.
I am actually in U.S. right now. :|
[R-COM]LITOralis.nMd wrote: Not much difference between the GTX750m and GTX660m btw.

The MSI whitebooks are a really good option. You buy the notebook, the CPU, (thermal paste) the RAM, and HDD/SDD, and OS yourself, install it yourself. Save lots of money. You can do some mods, like lap the CPU and GPU, buy better thermal paste, add copper heatsinks, etc.

I just priced out a MSI whitebook for myself, it came out to buy from cheapest online retailer in US, $1450, to buy parts and build myself came out to $1200, and I'd get better parts.
So basically MSI whitebook has just about everything except CPU, RAM, OS, thermal compound and HDD to build the laptop myself?

From where did you use the price for calculating total?

Re: light gaming laptop, better options?

Posted: 2013-06-14 03:12
by LITOralis.nMd
I didn't know you're in the US, that makes it much easier.

I wrote a very long response below, but first you should try this:

You should sign up for a Barnes and Nobles Account for Lenovo
You should sign up for a Student Account for Lenovo
You should check out the Lenovo OUTLET website.


Where to buy your components in the US from a online retailer?
step 1.
Go to MSI Notebook Website and look through the model numbers.
I suggest this one for you:
MSI Notebook Product Specifications
notice that the top level model number has multiple sub-model numbers, all related to either the GPU or number of mSata or Sata ports.
i.e.
  • Graphics & Video Module
  • ? 937-16GA22-009
  • NVIDIA? Geforce GTX660M, 2.0GB GDDR5 VRAM
  • ? 937-16GA12-005
  • NVIDIA? Geforce GT650M, 2.0GB GDDR5 VRAM
MSI has several different model numbers for each barebone, one is the SKU, one is the internal corporate MSI model number, the other is the barebone system integrators' model number, and the other sometimes is the equivalent MSI prebuilt model number.

You'll see most of the good companies that supplt this will list all of the model names for the exact same model, this isn't as complicated as it sounds.

Next step is to search Google for those submodel numbers, search for something like:
MSI 937-16GA12-005

AVAdirect, costcentral, superbiiz, amazon, ebay, beachaudio, compsource, provantage, and also a large number of custom notebook builders will sell just the stock barebone.

MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE ITEM IN STOCK AND NOT "ON SPECIAL ORDER", if in stock you get it in a week, ,... "ON SPECIAL ORDER" can take months...!!

Next, find your CPU of choice.
ARK | Your source for information on Intel? products

This is somewhat easier, you have Superbiiz, AVADirect and CostCentral as the big retailers of mobile CPUs in the US. There are others, and you can gamble on EBay, but those 3 are the big sellers:
https://www.google.com/shopping/product ... coring:mrd

The RAM and SSD/HDD you can pick up in hundreds of locations, be aware that MSI whitebooks for 3rd generation i-5 and i-7 mobos ONLY RUN up to 1600Mhz RAM. DO not spend extra money on 1866Mhz or 2000Mhz RAM if you have a budget. Save that money for something else.

Here is a general reply I give people, and especially since you seem to have a PC running at the moment, you can save serious money by only buying the RAM and HDD/SDD items found on sale, one at a time...
'[R-COM wrote:LITOralis.nMd;1867815']
My general reply to those in the US asking for websites:
Quote:
My suggestion is based upon finding the best prices, not on specific hardware...

start checking online deals websites daily:
my personal preferred bargain hunting websites:
Amazon.com Warehouse deals on SSDs. (I picked up a Crucial M4 256Gb SSD for US$149 in November, which was cheap then and is still cheap now, it was an open box return that had a total of 12 power cycles used, i.e. almost brand new.)
slickdeals.net
fatwallet.com
bensbargains.net
dell.com outlet deals in conjunction with coupons I find on the web.
amazon.com Gold box deals
email subscription to newegg.com for their daily deals
email subscription to us.ncix.com for their weekly deals

others I check from time to time:
techbargains.com
subscribe to tigerdirect.com email daily deals.
subscribe to buy.com email daily deals.

Sign up for accounts on slickdeals.net and fatwallet.com
You can create keyword searches that are instantly emailed to your email address you sign up with,
set up email deals alerts for "Radeon" "gtx" "psu" "i5-2500k" "ssd"
set up a filter in your email to put all those alert emails to a single folder.
you'll get some desktops and notebooks mixed in the emails, but it's a pretty good otherwise.
depending on where you live,
microcenter.com
frys.com
hhgregg.com
ncix.com
All run deals for brick and mortar retail stores.
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Re: light gaming laptop, better options?

Posted: 2013-06-14 03:15
by LITOralis.nMd
Lenovo outlet has a refurbished Y580 for $721
Laptops & Ultrabooks | Lenovo Outlet | Lenovo | (US)
Model Highlights
Part number: 59RF0016

Condition
Refurbished

Processor
Intel? Coreā„¢ i7-3630QM Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.40 GHz)

Operating system
Windows 8 Standard 64 - English

Graphics
Intel HD Graphics 4000 in processor, and NVIDIA GeForce? GTX 660M LE Graphics

Memory
8GB (2 X 4GB) PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz SDRAM SODIMM Memory

Display
15.6" FHD (1920 X 1080) TFT color, VibrantView, LED backlight w/720p HD Camera
pretty good deal.

Re: light gaming laptop, better options?

Posted: 2013-06-14 03:24
by LITOralis.nMd
You should sign up for the Barnes and Noble link, there is a Y410P with better specs (1600x900 and i7-4600QM CPU) and same price as the Y400 you mentioned in the first post

Barnes and Noble Gold | Lenovo | (US)

Update
$1,299.00
IdeaPad Y410p Laptop - 59369921 - Dusk Black: DOORBUSTER
Part number: 59369921
Edit configuration | Remove | Add to wishlist
Estimated ship date: 6/25/13**
+/- Configuration details
? 4th Generation Intel Core i7-4700MQ Processor (2.40GHz 1600MHz 6MB)
? Windows 8 64
? NVIDIA GeForce GT750M GDDR5 2GB
? 14.0" HD+ Anti-Glare LED Backlit with integrated camera 1600x900
? 1TB 5400 RPM
? DVD Recordable (Dual Layer)
? 6 Cell Lithium-Ion
? Intel Centrino Wireless N-2230
? Bluetooth Version 4.0
? One year
? Notebook
? Integrated HD Camera
? HDMI (Out)
CART SUMMARY
Web Price$1,299.00
Free shipping$0.00
eCoupon
[DADDOORBUSTER]-$510.00

APPLY
Total $789.00
i7 3630 v i7 4700
http://ark.intel.com/compare/71459,75117

Re: light gaming laptop, better options?

Posted: 2013-06-15 08:49
by ComradeHX
Thanks.

How would $800 option fare on Arma III currently?
Would it run 1980x1080 resolution above 30fps at medium settings?
What about $1200+ option?

Re: light gaming laptop, better options?

Posted: 2013-06-15 09:14
by LITOralis.nMd
the gt750m is not a particularly powerful gpu so do not expect too much from it.

A quick google search shows the GT750m can not run arma2 at 1080p, neither can the GTX660m,

GTX660m GDDR5 and GT750m GDDR5 are really similar cards. Don't get a GT750m GDDR3 , that card is not for any sort of gaming.

At $1200, you should be able to find some smoking deal somewhere, might take some time to find a good sale though. You can then buy a SSD at some later time, and have a real nice notebook for a few years.

Re: light gaming laptop, better options?

Posted: 2013-06-16 00:14
by Daniel
Get a GTX 660 instead of 650 if you can... ;)
I have the GTX 570 in my desktop pc, 660 is the follow up, meaning the 660 is sliiiiightly better than 570... ;) and 660 ti even better... (and 670 ofc. sh*tload better than that... :p )

YESSS, that one is a beeeeeast!!! :D :D
26 in stock... lol... :p xD

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