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Every so often I see or hear about some drama regarding different things on different servers. But it's always one thing that comes back. CAS. Why is it always some problem with this particular asset? I rarely, and I mean really rarely do I see CAS pretty much single-handily winning a game.

Now with the beta I haven't been able to play that to see so much, so let's just skip that part.

Don't bring admins or dodgy rules into this. Most server have pretty clear rules regarding assets. So why? Is it because you feel that you would have done better than the pilot that created the CAS squad one microsecond before you that you feel the need to cause problems? Tell me this then, if a pilot isn't the most excellent pilot in existence why would you not let him get good? I'm not talking about "learn to fly"-players here just some, not so perfect pilot. And don't give me the "practice in local" either because we both know that that isn't an option for everyone. So as soon as the pilot crashes you banter on him to make not to fly on the match again just so you can take the asset next time it spawns?

Alright, perhaps my thesis above does not match. How about this? You missed chance to get hold of the asset, now you will have to play infantry. "Shit, so boring, and our team sucks. Also why is this pilot flying? Please kick him." Can you simply not play anything other than CAS because all other things are not fun anymore in comparison?

So what do you think? Are my two theses above legitimate? What do you think is the reason CAS is the hot topic every so often? Please have a calm discussion.

I see the guys that really love to fly who when they can't grudgingly do armour, I often wonder if they love to fly why not play IL 2 or similar?
I would have thought it'd be frustrating as its so rare to have SLs that are able to laze.

I guess that sometimes you can achieve alot of kills and real on line players are more rewarding then bots.

My theory is that these people that take assets of any type, round after round, have no idea how to actually play infantry, the two hold vastly different skill sets that one group seems to have mastered while the asset takers tend to shy away from it because they're no good at it. That's fair enough, i cant use assets for shit so i don't try, if they cant play infantry then is it not best for them to be in an asset?

UKrealplayER666 wrote:My theory is that these people that take assets of any type, round after round, have no idea how to actually play infantry, the two hold vastly different skill sets that one group seems to have mastered while the asset takers tend to shy away from it because they're no good at it. That's fair enough, i cant use assets for shit so i don't try, if they cant play infantry then is it not best for them to be in an asset?

Yes, but the thing is that if you want to learn infantry, then no problem, everyone welcomes you because it's the base. But if you want to learn to be a better pilot, god bless you.

Just play the game doesnt matter if you are good or bad as long as you have fun everythings fine..im sick of whining people lol

Talking about assets.

If people will TK for assets or destroy assets intentionally, we will have to remove those players from servers, because rules are as they are - first come first serve.

Such behavior is not acceptable and will not be tolerated.

UKrealplayER666 wrote:My theory is that these people that take assets of any type, round after round, have no idea how to actually play infantry, the two hold vastly different skill sets that one group seems to have mastered while the asset takers tend to shy away from it because they're no good at it. That's fair enough, i cant use assets for shit so i don't try, if they cant play infantry then is it not best for them to be in an asset?

What is the problem with people that can't play infantry but do good in assets?

Inspektura43 wrote:What is the problem with people that can't play infantry but do good in assets?

Everyone first is infantry men. Afterwords everything else. Why? Because infantrymen are core. Assets wont cap flags, wont go in the city, wont clear buildings, wont revive or lead people.

Inspektura43 wrote:What is the problem with people that can't play infantry but do good in assets?

His post says that he doesn't have a problem with people who take assets. The last line states if people aren't good at inf or dont want to play inf they shouldn't get labelled for taking a vehicle. Hope that's where your question was directed.

sweedensniiperr wrote: So what do you think? Are my two theses above legitimate? What do you think is the reason CAS is the hot topic every so often? Please have a calm discussion.

on one hand, those guys on the ground might be complaining because that's what infantry do. to paraphrase an old saying, "if a grunt isn't bitching, he's dead." they're waiting on you to drop that armor, or light up that squad. stressed out and wanting to watch them burn, while you're seemingly off doing nothing. of course, you're off killing tanks or fobs they have no clue about, but that's besides the point. bottom line is, everyone's an expert.

to a smaller degree, there are the infamous asset whor...(users). they tend to complain when they're not in their asset of choice, criticize your effort etc. if they're really snobby, they turn it into a teamchat discussion, or even !r. as with anything, ignore it and enjoy your game. they'll go quiet or leave eventually. this is more of an entitlement doctrine. i imagine them making videos to dubstep, those kinds of characters. they're out there, but in smaller numbers.

some asset (users) have a very real synergy with their squadmates of choice (clans come to mind), and they perform. that doesn't entitle them to exclusive use, thankfully, and everyone should have a turn. some of the best pilots in pr have been your run of the mill smurfs, no mics and they type on the fly. the hellen keller's, we lovingly call them.

i personally wish that i had an a-10 on every map, at all times. i don't though, and it burns me inside.

notmyingamename wrote:on one hand, those guys on the ground might be complaining because that's what infantry do. to paraphrase an old saying, "if a grunt isn't bitching, he's dead." they're waiting on you to drop that armor, or light up that squad. stressed out and wanting to watch them burn, while you're seemingly off doing nothing. of course, you're off killing tanks or fobs they have no clue about, but that's besides the point. bottom line is, everyone's an expert.

Point very much valid. But isn't exactly answering my question. Why is it always the CAS that is the problem? Sure there can be some problem with armor squad but that is less frequent than with CAS. Or is my view completely crooked and every asset gets as much drama?

CAS crashes a lot more than armor does. How often do you see someone say: "What an idiot. He just nosedived that tank into a hill." It's really hard to wreck land assets where as air is (for me) really hard to fly. Thereby you crash more.

Its not. Its only a big deal for a small number of players that this community know off.

The NEW server is a good paradox to what the OP is saying, apart from when Rage joins the server

CAS players in PR are like Artillery players in WoT.

It are the guys who are whoring this asset who are making a deal of it, everyone knows them. That group of 5 guys whoring it at EU times, going maniac when you made a make a squad before them. They like to piss you off when you die, they often got one of their friends with admin rights protecting them when they are trolling you or pissing you off. When you do something back, you get warned/kicked/banned for it. I think this says enough. The fact that most people who occasionally want to fly can't do this because of the people described above says enough.

B.Pronk(NL) wrote:It are the guys who are whoring this asset who are making a deal of it, everyone knows them. That group of 5 guys whoring it at EU times, going maniac when you made a make a squad before them. They like to piss you off when you die, they often got one of their friends with admin rights protecting them when they are trolling you or pissing you off. When you do something back, you get warned/kicked/banned for it. I think this says enough. The fact that most people who occasionally want to fly can't do this because of the people described above says enough.

Yeah Ive been playing for quite a while and there are a few servers around i have seen that aren't so friendly. They will disband asset squads just so there clan members can take the assets.

And even when they do allow other people who made the squad first to have assets they will endlessly berate that person with hateful comments and or ban them for wasting assets/kick them to steal the asset squad.

It gets a little bit ridiculous and it really discourages newer players. Ive never really had they problem just because i love playing infantry and find assets to be boring. But there are other players out there who want to use them as well.

It is really off putting to not just new players but even some old players. Its a little distasteful in my opinion how some of these "clans" run there servers. But hey, it your server. Push players away all you like.

i normally go cas because i play on american servers and with 300 ping i get owned 9 times out of 10 as infantry as my hit reg is just to laggy...

so alot more fun and less frustrating to be in a heli... also me and viirus were/are prity gud

I play Infantry 95% so i dont care much about CAS or Armor. They dont affect your Gameplay that much. Sure the plan is "oh CAS is up, iam gonna laze that Fob and mark enemy AA position" but reality is in about 70% "oh CAS is up iam gonna laze that .... oh CAS down" Many pilots simpy are not that good to fly a long time, on the other thad there are some people that can own a whole round with their Chopper or Jet. Whats strange is that most people complain 20 minutes about rules, the other pilots or something else and dont manage to fly 5 minutes.

I play CAS as often as I can, sometimes a bit too much, but I really enjoy it. I'm not the best, but I'm OK. I think it's all about the thrill of you using a different weapon/asset than everyone else. Everyone else is on the ground, but you're in a terrifying killing machine. Also flying is the shit.

The biggest reason that CAS is the one fighting the most is that it's the asset that there is the least of. Only 1 A10, only 1 Cobra, only 1 CAS Huey. You get the idea. So when that person that thinks they are a the shit doesn't get to fly they will jump at any opportunity to belittle the person that just crashed. Maybe they are better maybe they aren't. But the only way that person is going to get better is by flying. I say just have fun, remember it is a game after all.

Easy. If you have control of the skies, you often win. It allows your armor to do their thing, the infantry to move about freely, and it's just a better overall experience for your team when you have air supremacy.

That's why CAS is such a big deal.