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SKS used to be one of my favorite rifles in game. New version of SKS looks great, but the recoil is whack. Please drop it down to a more realistic level, more akin to an AK47 or something. I'm getting in shootouts at 25 meters, and i fire one shot and i can't even see the enemy in my sight picture due to the vertical movement. I did some informal testing by shooting at walls, and at the very least it has a drastically higher recoil than the G3 or AK47. The fact it only holds 10 rounds and is semi auto, and has more recoil than either of the other weapons mentioned is severely nerfing it.

Not to mention it has way less of a kick irl when compared to a 7.62 ak without any from of muzzlebrake.

The PR SKS belongs in a group of generalized recoil stats, not really unique to the gun itself. For example, some semi-auto rifles are set to use the same recoil stat as a resource for semi-auto rifles. The recoil for that stat is set relatively high, which is not very realistic when compared to an AK, but I believe intended for balance plus saving a heckalot of modding time.

I agree Riflewizard. I love the Simonov, especially with the new model, but it is at present simply an inferior choice to any alternatives that may be available. It seems to me to be two parts recoil, one part sight-picture. Again, the new model is excellent, but the smaller scale of the iron sight geometries make target re-acquisition after blasting a 20mm AA shell out of your barrel slightly more involved

Yeah it's not unusable but extremely annoying.

I now almost never use it when I play the insurgents because I can just choose G3 or AK.

I completely agree. I loved the SKS in the previous version but I don't use it now because of the small sights and massive recoil. Would changing the sights require an entirely new model to be made?

I actually thought that the biggest SKS's problem was its awkward sights which prevented me from effective aiming and target re-acquisition after a shot. I seems to me its recoil can be compared to AK-47, but I may be wrong on this one. Still, its sights are the worst and I can't pinpoint what's actually wrong with them.

I dont use the SKS, PPSH41 or the Simonov because of that...

___sangue-ruim___ wrote:I dont use the SKS, PPSH41 or the Simonov because of that...

1. SKS and Simonov are the same thing. (SKS translates as Self-loading Carbine of Simonov).
2. PPSh41 is an excellent close range weapon.

saamohod wrote: 2. PPSh41 is an excellent close range weapon.

No it's not. It's recoil is too high for the amount of damage it does. I much prefer the AK74 due to the greater range, lower recoil, and higher damage. The AK47, SKS, & RPK have the same problem. The problem persists with almost all militia, taliban, & Insurgent weapons.

Btw I don't see anymore AK weilding insurgents nowadays. Most people prefer the G3, 870 or Lee-Enfield, Because the AKs just plain suck now.

obpmgmua wrote:No it's not. It's recoil is too high for the amount of damage it does. I much prefer the AK74 due to the greater range, lower recoil, and higher damage. The AK47, SKS, & RPK have the same problem. The problem persists with almost all militia, taliban, & Insurgent weapons.

Btw I don't see anymore AK weilding insurgents nowadays. Most people prefer the G3, 870 or Lee-Enfield, Because the AKs just plain suck now.

Dude, I'm not really sure if you know what you are talking about. As usual
1. PPSh41 does more damage than other SMGs like MP5 or MP7. (Source: Project Reality Wikia). It has awesome magazine capacity and its recoil is on par with other SMGs. (I just tested it). Even if it might be slightly higher, then this fact properly reflects things IRL. Don't forget that PPSh is an "ancient" SMG, with no proper front grip, no pistol grip by the trigger, and relatively low stock. All these factors may easily contribute to its higher recoil when compared to modern SMGs.
2. AK47 and SKS are 7.62 caliber guns without muzzle brake, so you should expect higher recoil. You say "Most people prefer the G3", but G3 has similar recoil. It is also unwieldy in full-auto mode.
3. RPK? Seriously? It has way better recoil than any other assault rifle in undeployed mode, and "no" recoil in deployed mode, just as any other light machine gun. If you don't believe me - grab an RPK, aim in undeployed mode and fire a burst, then grab an AK 47 (which is actually the same as RPK 47, only shorter barrel) aim and fire. RPK is waaay better.

What are you talking about?

I did love the SKS and it presented a working alternative for the age old AK47 in the 0.97 patch, but now it seems there aren't really many people who want to select that weapon anymore.

The fast settling medium recoil and easy target re-aquisition in the previous patch with it's rather high power round made it a good weapon, not over powered, but usable. The tough recoil and small sights have rendered it quite useless in the new version.

Perhaps, but even ak recoil is way off. I shot ak74 in school and well i didnt go full auto, only 2 shots but it didnt have any sort of recoil rly. Now look at the side to side recoil. I think all AKs should be closer to how the ak74s works in the game: strangely, the short variant seems to be the best gun for recoil.

the sks recoil is still too extreme in 1.1.1.0? don't think so.

[R-DEV]K4on wrote:the sks recoil is still too extreme in 1.1.1.0? don't think so.

No, it isn't. The thread is outdated now.