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Project Reality: 2142

Posted: 2014-04-13 04:32
by bigbadjesus
For years now I have wished that the PR dev team would make a mod for bf2142 that had the same features as the bf2 mod. I know it wouldn't really be 'reality', but it would really enhance the gameplay of bf2142 and add to the experience tremendously. Sadly I know it will never happen, there aren't that many players of bf2142 anymore. :(

I just wonder if anyone has had the same idea.

Re: Project Reality: 2142

Posted: 2014-04-13 04:54
by smgunsftw
Devs have said before that the BF2 is way more than sufficient to handle the gameplay of Project Reality. They also stated that the work involved in the conversion to BF2 wouldn't make a substantial impact on gameplay or graphics.
Your best chance of seeing PR on another engine would be Project Reality 2

Re: Project Reality: 2142

Posted: 2014-04-13 06:39
by IINoddyII
Locked.

If you did a search you'd see that this wasn't a unique idea and has been responded to a number of times.



'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino;1690898']The only reason why I've approved this suggestion is so I can try and stamp it out, again..

For starters lets look at the things you think make it worth it.
  • Texture resolutions have the same limitations as on the BF2 engine, no gain there...
  • Ballistics can be done a little better yes, but nothing huge.
  • 3D HUDs are possible in BF2, just a lot of work to do but the same amount of work required to do them in BF2142.
  • "Poly limits" are the same as BF2. All the BF2142 engine is is a slightly tweaked BF2 engine, poly limits are really only limited by the client's system when it comes to these two engines.
There are actually bigger pros than the only real pro you have listed (Ballistics) and thous are things like Destructible children etc, but at the end of the day, its really not worth it. Here are a few very BIG reasons why.

First of all we can not use vBF2 content in BF2142. That means the Chinese faction has pretty much gone in a flash and many gaps in pretty much all the other factions only the British, IDF and German factions are the only ones left mostly complete... This also means pretty much all of PR's maps can't be used as they use many vBF2 statics in them and would need to be reworked to not have any of vBF2's statics in them. Even most of PR's statics use vBF2 texture palettes so they can't even be used in 2142 without having missing texture errors crashing the players on load. And then its not like we can replace all these missing statics with BF2142 statics, even if we had the time to do so... There is also a big chance a lot of our python code will not work directly with BF2142 and would need to be edited to work with it. This is also not to forget all the time and effort needed to be put into porting PR to 2142 which isn't a simple copy and paste job...


But if you really think the majority of players are going to fish out even more money for BF2142 for only a tiny jump in capabilities, forgetting all of thous problems above you can think again. What would happen is you would end up with a split player base, some playing PR:BF2 and some playing PR:BF2142 and this would shorten PR's lifespan considerably. We might as well cut PR's wrists and see how long it takes for it to die....


So ye, this isn't going to happen and if we wanted to do this, we would have done it soon after 2142's release rather than 5years after its release when hardly anyone is playing it, at some points less people than PR:BF2.....


- Locked

Re: Project Reality: 2142

Posted: 2014-04-13 12:21
by Rhino
I actually think the OP was talking about making a "more realistic version of 2142 with PR's gameplay" rather than the normal "you guys should move PR:BF2 with all its content onto the 2142 engine".

But I'm sorry to say that there is no chance of this happening.

There is also a few "Realism Mods" for BF2142, namely Northern Excursion although it doesn't feature the same kinda gameplay of PR afaik but might be something close to what your looking for: Northern Excursion mod for Battlefield 2142 - Mod DB
The Northern Excursion mod (once called the "Extreme Realism" mod) is a game-enhancement mod that strives to be an unofficial expansion pack to Battlefield 2142, developed by Digital Illusions CE and published by Electronic Arts. The mod introduces a new faction, the "North American Coalition" (NAC), re-introduces the jet fighter/bomber air vehicle types from Battlefield 2, brings back old features which were left out of the original Battlefield 2142 (such as stationary machine guns, visual effects, unused voice overs), new gameplay and much more.
Also in future please post suggestions in the suggestions forum, thanks.