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Wondering if there will be maps showing battles inside the USA like those in the booster pack etc? That would be a neat touch.

Yeah i've been wanting that, only problem is that you'd have to create totally new statics. So it would take alot of time. PLA Amphibious assault on Los Angeles, lol. Or Hawaii?

Don't like that idea.
Would make Project Reality loose its reality for me.

personally speaking, the one map worth saving from vanilla BF2 is Operation Harvest - absolutely fantastic map and perfect for AAS
other than that it's not really a good idea

bosco wrote:Don't like that idea.
Would make Project Reality loose its reality for me.

There's the answer everyone was waiting for. You think MEC is realisitc? You think an U.S invasion of PLA is realistic? The whole story is 100% totally unreaslitic. The whole game is 100% unrealistic. PR isn't about creating a realistic storyline. It's about creating realistic GAMEPLAY. That is, making the M16's, the T90's....realistic. Where the action takes place is upto the mappers. Get out of your patriotic bubble and just listen to ideas. I can't beleive some people here, just totally rejecting any idea whatsoever that the U.S would be invaded. For fuck sake.

I am getting SICK and TIRED of all this U.S ****.

"Make this vehicle for the U.S"
"Make this weapon for the U.S"
"The U.S use this not that"

There is a MEC and PLA side in this game, the storyline isn't meant to be realistic. If you want a realistic storyline, play USI or DCon or FH2 when/if it comes out. I just think the neglect that PLA/MEC are receiving is out of order. I've experienced this on another forum, the large majority of americans can't think of a hypothetical situation and it's almost drilled into their minds that so and so events can't happen. It's fucking scary and brainwashing.

Calm down... first of I live in Europe... second fact is that I like to play as MEC and PLA as I like to play US.

bosco wrote:Don't like that idea.
Would make Project Reality loose its reality for me.

This is my personal oppinion.

I would think it was cool to have some maps in the US, but what would be different about them?? Would it just be a city map? I don't know how much different it would be...

Mekstizzle wrote:There's the answer everyone was waiting for. You think MEC is realisitc? You think an U.S invasion of PLA is realistic? The whole story is 100% totally unreaslitic. The whole game is 100% unrealistic. PR isn't about creating a realistic storyline. It's about creating realistic GAMEPLAY. That is, making the M16's, the T90's....realistic. Where the action takes place is upto the mappers. Get out of your patriotic bubble and just listen to ideas. I can't beleive some people here, just totally rejecting any idea whatsoever that the U.S would be invaded. For fuck sake.

I am getting SICK and TIRED of all this U.S ****.

"Make this vehicle for the U.S"
"Make this weapon for the U.S"
"The U.S use this not that"

There is a MEC and PLA side in this game, the storyline isn't meant to be realistic. If you want a realistic storyline, play USI or DCon or FH2 when/if it comes out. I just think the neglect that PLA/MEC are receiving is out of order. I've experienced this on another forum, the large majority of americans can't think of a hypothetical situation and it's almost drilled into their minds that so and so events can't happen. It's fucking scary and brainwashing.

Calm down please!

I think your over reacting just a touch. In my honest opinion, PR will only be doing maps in the 'standard' vanilla hotspots. As you already said it would take a dang lot of work modelling all the buildings, and I think the wider player base would pefer to keep the battles to more interesting places than LA.

Regdless, please do not swear it violates forum rules, also you should not be suprised that alot of suggestions are for US vehicles, the fact is a large proportion of this community are american or their supportive allies, and so will naturally be making suggestions regarding 'the worlds superpower'. There are alot of 'can we make the german/canadian/swedish army' threads aswell but there are less of those people. Try to be more polite please its only the internet!

yea i agree mekstizzle but please calm down...

yea its improbable for USA to be invaded, its also improbable for China to be invaded as well, but its already in there, so live with it....

Id love some battles to happen in a north american map! so much work with models, etc though...

also yea, the constant requests for ONLY US/British equipment gets old and annoying...

Especially when talking about Infantry classes.... everyone constantly just talks about Delta Force/Green Berets/USMC/US Army/etc etc....

If your gonna talk about adding weapons/vehicles, talk about all sides (US, British, China, MEC, Insurgent) otherwise, none of the devs are gonna bother listening because they already have 1001 things on the 'to-do' list for US.

Mekstizzle wrote:...
I am getting SICK and TIRED of all this U.S ****.

"Make this vehicle for the U.S"
"Make this weapon for the U.S"
"The U.S use this not that"

There is a MEC and PLA side in this game, the storyline isn't meant to be realistic. If you want a realistic storyline, play USI or DCon or FH2 when/if it comes out. I just think the neglect that PLA/MEC are receiving is out of order. I've experienced this on another forum, the large majority of americans can't think of a hypothetical situation and it's almost drilled into their minds that so and so events can't happen. It's fucking scary and brainwashing.

oh god, finally someone said it, thank you

Way to hop on the "Americans are stupid" bandwagon. Every country has its idiots and every country wants to see its military in games. The US was the biggest market so they chose to go with them.

Also, I too get sick of only hearing about what new weapons and vehicles the US should get. However, it is tough to make suggestions about the Chinese military let alone an Arab military that is nonexistent.

Instead of turning this thread into a bunch of Europeans crying, why don't you offer suggestions for the PLA and MEC armies.

The reason there are so many threads for changing US/British army stuff is because we know 10x more about them. I don't see many "I'm in the Chinese army" guys around here.

Also, this mod, nor any game I've ever seen, can play to the true strength's of the Middle Eastern/PLA armies. One of the main advantages is numbers, the US is almost alway's outnumbered, and thus has to rely on superior equipment and training. Problem is, when you have a video game that is based on the 1v1 premise, having 1 player with great equipment and 1 not isn't fun. So until game developers find a way to properly represent the advantages of other armies and somehow maintain a "fun factor", there can't be a true representation of the US/British Armed forces, because the game wouldn't be very fun.

WNxKenwayy wrote:The reason there are so many threads for changing US/British army stuff is because we know 10x more about them. I don't see many "I'm in the Chinese army" guys around here.

Also, this mod, nor any game I've ever seen, can play to the true strength's of the Middle Eastern/PLA armies. One of the main advantages is numbers, the US is almost alway's outnumbered, and thus has to rely on superior equipment and training. Problem is, when you have a video game that is based on the 1v1 premise, having 1 player with great equipment and 1 not isn't fun. So until game developers find a way to properly represent the advantages of other armies and somehow maintain a "fun factor", there can't be a true representation of the US/British Armed forces, because the game wouldn't be very fun.

Thats what im trying to say, I totally agree with you.

I would love to make a map of a desert, the US has 8 tanks, 4 cobras and 2 jets. The MEC has 20 T62's, 8 BDRMS and loads of static AA.

Realistic yes, also, only fun for 50% of players in the server, boring rape for the other half.

mdterp1987 wrote:Way to hop on the "Americans are stupid" bandwagon. Every country has its idiots and every country wants to see its military in games. The US was the biggest market so they chose to go with them.

QFE, I don't come yell at any of you for suggesting something for an "Australian" army or a "Canadian" army! That would add a HUGE load of work just to add another army.

Mekstizzle;

I know that most of the people talk about US but it's REALLY quite logical and obvious to why it happens; A lot of the people that play this game are from the US (this is a big one). These people want to add stuff for their country's army. Simple as that. I have a TON of readily available information about US' vehicles and weapons. I don't have this much and readily available information about the Chinese nor the magically developed MEC. Not to mention the fact that places like USA and Great Britain are technologically advance, where as MEC isn't.

When I play PR on ANY map, I don't think "so, this is what it would look like if we invaded so-so." I look at it strictly as a MAP and only as a MAP. I think Bosco meant "this would lose the whole reality thing" because he most likely thought of maps like "operation road rage" for PR. That would be SUCH a boring and retarded map to play on for PR. It wouldn't give the "realistic" feel that many of the PR maps give me. When I play on Mao Valley, it feels realistic to me because I don't know if someone is right next to me. Not because of some stupid HYPOTHETICAL situation of why it would look like the way it did if we faught chinese in some jungle area. Are you joking? Please, don't insult my intelligence so blindly.

Make maps for American soil, I couldn't care less. As long as they look and play as good as any other PR-made maps I'll be happy.

Its the perfect excuse to include a Canadian faction! The US annexes Canada to secure Alaska agasint invasion and we have Canadian insurgents trying to push the invaders back!

Note to self: Stop playing Fallout.

Yeah I don't think there are a lot of Middle East or East Asain players (but if there are speak up with suggestions if you know any)

I was rather happening, just to contrast with the maps on armoured fury based in america, that in PR we might have ye olde British Isles as the subject for a map. Perhaps insurgents (or is that too close to home).

One of the islands perhaps?

Isle of Man?
Jersey (who the hell would want to invade that place) (well it was invaded in WW2 is suppose).

Could call the map "On the Streets" or "Martial Law" with the army deployed in response to an "insurgent" threat.

Probably more interesting to have more "Traditional Flashpoint" locations than this though.... just thinking aloud...

Fishw0rk wrote:Errr who said the U.S. gotta be invaded? Although I do agree that I'd love to see some MEC or PLA battles set in America.

You guys are forgetting we have INSURGENTS now! They can easily be placed into a USA map without having to bend 'reality' that much.

No, it would still bend reality a little too much. We have police and the FBI you know, so any kind of large scale insurgency would be figured out quick.

Also, where are they going to get the necessary guns, ammo, munitions, supplies, and everything else they need to sustain an insurgency for long.

Also, an invasion of China or the Middle East Coalition areas is also highly likely because the US and UK have the largest Navy and fleets in the world and also easy access to them from other countries such as Germany, Isreal, etc.

China or the MEC would have to sail all the way across the Pacific to reach here, or either go across the Bering(sp?) Strait, and it is pretty cold up there, so it probably wouldn't be that effective.