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Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-17 20:58
by Jutsch
So, today i played on NEW, Silent Eagle lrg, and my team got totally obliterated, probably due to random and retarded team switching the admins did at the start of the round, which already led the whole server to spam angry and confused complaints...
At the end of the round, in the allchat-phase (i was 15th best in my team, but my K/D was 0:8 ), some guy (i had that bug where i cant see whos talking) said "Hey Jutsch, how about you try to get a proper K/D before complaining about your team?" (in german and a angry tone). I think he was refering to a chat message of me in the game, where i said that the teams seemed very unbalanced to me (and it proofed they were), becasue all of the pro clans were on the enemy team (KSK, 3dac, NEW,...)
And i was like "Well what the fuck should i do if the squadleader constantly sends us right into enemy tanks?" There was no answer...
I mean: are we in CoD now? Since when does the personal K/D count!?
I see/hear it more often that players and especially admins or members of server-owning clans project their frustration after or during a bad match on other players :/
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-17 21:21
by Spook
Well who ever the troll was, he is happy now. He clearly made you mad. Why even pay attention to such nonsense?
I see/hear it more often that players and especially admins or members of server-owning clans project their frustration after or during a bad match on other players :/
Cannot confirm.
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-17 21:30
by KillJoy[Fr]
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-17 21:33
by Rudd
Angry? Stop playing, it'll poison your game. Go do something else and come back or move servers.
I've been pissed off and I've probably pissed other people off, best thing is just to withdraw if you aren't enjoying yourself.
Server admins should be managing the clan distribution of their server, clans themselves have a responsibility to police themselves too. iGi used to ensure we were on the weaker team, often squad leading an entire team of pubbies to victory against our Bitter Russian clan rivals who tended to come to our server (I miss you guys

) we'd ensure we were spread onto both teams if no other clans were present.
If servers are not doing this, please post a constructive and polite post in their feedback sections so that they can address that issue.
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-17 21:44
by Pronck
It wasn't me!
The community has changed, but the expectations of most of the older players (old = a lot of experience) has barely changed and they are still aiming for a good round.
We can blame a lot of servers, sometimes we are right and sometimes we aren't. But what a lot of people have to admit, is that you can turn the tables around with help of others. Too often we give up the fight after the first shots are fired.
I must admit, I have also more problems with turning rounds and putting myself in the position where I lead a squad and try to win. These days I often accept my faith after some struggling.
Some people deal with it, some people sometimes (I accept it, but it is 50/50) and some people don't accept that they have a bad round at all.
What I want to give you as advice. If you have squadleaders that are doing zerg rushes into the enemy tank you can do A) suggest another plan nicely B) find another squad or C) lead your own squad. That way you have at least done something in case it goes wrong.
But the fact that you have orders doesn't take away the responsibility of your own in-game "life". You need to make sure in the end that you survive. So in case you get these "risky" assignments, do in it way that you survive.
Don't get demotivated when the enemy team is stacked, try to put up a good fight and inspire maybe one other squad lead to fight to the bitter end. It is hard, takes effort but you can have very fun round fighting with basically 2 squads versus the enemy team.
If this doesn't help, you know the sentence: If you can't beat them, join them.
Yes the person could have said it nicely, but be aware that there are chances to prevent this situations. It is harder though than before, but it is still possible.
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-17 22:16
by Midnight_o9
*grabs popcorn*
On a serious note, what Rudd said, we're humans, we're all gonna get angry at some situations... only thing to do is to back off, leave, take a break... engaging on an argument on the internet is the most pointless thing on earth. People behind their screens feel invincible and nothing you can tell them will make them calm down.
Also, what spook said... feed the trolls and he'll grow bigger... Ignore him and he'll disappear.
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-18 00:14
by [508th_PIR] Grey
Jutsch wrote:"Well what the fuck should i do if the squadleader constantly sends us right into enemy tanks?"
Find a new squad, of course.
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-18 00:32
by Trekkie
I had a squadleader recently who was really good at staying positive no matter what was going on, not in an annoying way, but he wouldn't let any squad members bring down the squad. Somebody would mention something pessimistic and he'd counter it with something optimistic. And that really stuck out, really made all the difference, we went through a streak where our team was losing over and over and then we finally turned it around, but he kind of brought us through it feeling pretty good, and our squad was always doing good stuff. Anyway, another squad lead I've been playing a lot with lately is the opposite... he'll just take any opportunity to complain about the other squads, the commander, whoever, and it's like... of course everybody should be able to express themselves, even if that means expressing something negative, but it's a lot nicer to hear someone just admit that their morale is low rather than complaining about the game or the team.
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-18 00:40
by Jolly
I usually rage quit and go find other servers...
U don't get even with Trolls.
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-18 00:53
by bren
Try playing some CoOP. That's what I'd do if I was frustrated.
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-18 01:04
by SIDEKILL3R
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-18 02:16
by Psyrus
Trekkie wrote:I had a squadleader recently who was really good at staying positive no matter what was going on, not in an annoying way, but he wouldn't let any squad members bring down the squad. Somebody would mention something pessimistic and he'd counter it with something optimistic.
I envy those people soooo much! I'm one of those pessimistic people (not just in games) and even though I can tell it hurts the morale of my squad, it's so hard to keep the feelings of annoyance and frustration to myself... sometimes I do make a concerted effort to balance it out with positive stuff, but when your team isn't doing anything to win, it's hard to stay positive

Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-18 03:32
by Jolly
[R-CON]Psyrus wrote:I envy those people soooo much! I'm one of those pessimistic people (not just in games) and even though I can tell it hurts the morale of my squad, it's so hard to keep the feelings of annoyance and frustration to myself... sometimes I do make a concerted effort to balance it out with positive stuff, but when your team isn't doing anything to win, it's hard to stay positive
I can see u try to save team's *** all the time, communicate more than others. However...I see u quit when the team completely fcked-up.

Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-18 03:40
by fatalsushi83
I suggest learning how to lead a squad if you're that dissatisfied. If you learn how to keep a squad together you can't really have a "bad" game because even if you get steamrolled, you'll still be teamworking and communicating, which I think is the most satisfying part of PR.
By the way, Psyrus, I've not sure if living in Japan is going to help your pessimism

Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-18 05:03
by Danger_6
I first started to squad lead when I realized the majority of SLs were incompetent.
If you think you can do better, then step up to the plate and try for yourself.
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-18 06:14
by Jolly
Danger_6 wrote:I first started to squad lead when I realized the majority of SLs were incompetent.
If you think you can do better, then step up to the plate and try for yourself.
My goal is to turn all the good SL into assets whore.
Including u.

Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-18 13:05
by dutch
I was on the the server and in that game yesterday, and I can tell you whoever it was that told you off was right.
You cried before the round start already, why do you not squad lead if you know it all.
My amateur clan switched to your side to help out, i thought it was a great round and enjoyed it allot, we even had one of the best commanders in game, Curry and we held our ground with just +/- 10 infantry vs the so called pro's.
You where annoying and the guy that sorted you out was right, if you want to avoid this, get better at the game, adjust and step up to lead a squad and bare in mind defend first before you even think of attacking.
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-18 13:48
by Jutsch
'KillJoy[Fr wrote:;2034962']

Yes plz ._.
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-18 13:53
by Jutsch
brenn4n wrote:Try playing some CoOP. That's what I'd do if I was frustrated.
come on brenn4n, CoOp is for n00bs! ;D
Re: Angry players and stress projection...
Posted: 2014-09-18 13:56
by Jutsch
dutch wrote:I was on the the server and in that game yesterday, and I can tell you whoever it was that told you off was right.
You cried before the round start already, why do you not squad lead if you know it all.
My amateur clan switched to your side to help out, i thought it was a great round and enjoyed it allot, we even had one of the best commanders in game, Curry and we held our ground with just +/- 10 infantry vs the so called pro's.
You where annoying and the guy that sorted you out was right, if you want to avoid this, get better at the game, adjust and step up to lead a squad and bare in mind defend first before you even think of attacking.
I didn't say anything against Curry or our team??